Re: the function of rear wings...

["Allyn" <amalventano1@home.com>]

Scott,
    I dunno, man, there cant be too much extra drag there. All i got are
euro cams and tt exhaust and i can hit 128 in 4th (FN), and that was with my
cam timing at -12 degrees (before i realized/fixed it). If there was bunches
of drag, i dont think i would get near that speed.
Al

Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6) running - for now
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch,
driveshafts, wheels :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com>
To: "Allyn" <amalventano1@home.com>; "Neal Tovsen"
<sixteen.volt@verizon.net>; "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>; "_Scirocco
List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Marc scirocco Québec"
<marc_scirocco@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: the function of rear wings...


Allyn, what your kick ass Rieger body does is create a *lot* of drag! Don't
ask questions about its aerodynamic properties unless you want to get really
upset. :^) Just appreciate the looks and be happy. :^)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:18 PM
> To: Neal Tovsen; Patrick Bureau; _Scirocco List; Marc scirocco Québec
> Subject: Re: the function of rear wings...
>
>
> Neal,
> i wonder what my rieger gto does to the aerodynamics. Anyone know
> if rieger
> does the same type pf testing?
> i do notice downforce at highway speeds, but then again, theres no sliding
> that tail at any speed.
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Tovsen" <sixteen.volt@verizon.net>
> To: "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>; "_Scirocco List"
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Marc scirocco Québec" <marc_scirocco@yahoo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:12 PM
> Subject: RE: the function of rear wings...
>
>
> I actually got the full instructions and pamphlets with my Kamei Mk1 rear
> hatch spoiler from Dirk. They actually did windtunnel tests and they list
> the reduction in lift at high speed, increased fuel mileage, etc! I only
> wish that I had a similar sheet for the Mk1 Kamei X-1 ground
> effects kit...
>
> Neal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Bureau
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:27 PM
> > To: _Scirocco List; Marc scirocco Québec
> > Subject: RE: the function of rear wings...
> >
> >
> > Marc,
> >
> > Yes I was talking about high speeds, before I put on the Kamei X1
> > body kit and Zender Spoiler, the car was "jumpy" above 90MPH
> > (140KMH) now it runs smoothly, hugging the road at 90MPH, I have
> > pushed my little 85 8v up to 100MPH (160KPH) without fear, and a
> > few times, ran it to 110MPH (180KPH) on a long straight line with
> > fairly good stability (I am still ridding stock springs and shocks,
> > therefore once this gets changed and the car sits 1.25" lower than
> > it does now, this will have to be revised once again).
> >
> > So Yeah The right body Kit /Spoiler Combination DOES make a
> > difference, Especially that Kamei Air Dam. (very notable difference
> > even at speed of 70MPH (nose sits put on highway no "tipping" (up
> > and down movement) keeping the wheels on the road firmly planted
> > even at 70MPH(110KPH).
> >
> > Mark If you want Next Tuesday I can Take you for a spin, I took
> > Melany last Tuesday and she was impressed by the car handling
> > compared to get GTI on the road, not to mention how "spunky (her
> > word not mine)" engine.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > >
> > >  --- Patrick Bureau <pbureau@home.com> a écrit : >
> > > >
> > > > One of the reasons why I swap the big-lip spoiler on
> > > > my 85 to the
> > > > "GTX" also really know as the Zender Bi-Spoiler
> > > > rear wing... I have not seen any difference in
> > > > driving my car
> > > > around between the big lip and the Zender spoiler
> > > >
> > >
> > > You will have to really drive it hard and fast to
> > > notice something, not just drive around. :) At over
> > > 120-140 Kmh you will have more overall stability.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am sure that you get an equal benefit from the
> > > zender body kit, It probably is fully functionnal as
> > > well as good looking.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > > '83 Scirocco
> > > '88 Scirocco Slegato
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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