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RE: Badger 5 t-bodies

To: "Cheapass Ron" <rapieper@yahoo.com>, "Lauri Pettai" <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee>, "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com>
Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:29:23 -0400
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20010905152348.68862.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com>
Sender: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org

Ya, but running the duct from the fresh air area would necessitate running a
duct over the hot engine. I fear that it would get heat soaked and negate
the gains. It would also add a goofy-looking apparatus cluttering up the
engine bay. -not at all important from a racing point of view, but not quite
what this guy is looking for on the street.

My two ideas are to install a shorter/wider radiator (i.e. compared to my 8v
rad. Roughly 16v width but 2" shorter...), or to section the radiator
support to move the stock unit down the same distance. I'm not sure which is
more work but I'd probably go with the custom rad setup...

Hmmm...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Cheapass Ron
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:24 AM
> To: Lauri Pettai; Scott F. Williams
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
>
>
> Has anyone investigated obtaining cold intake air from the fresh air
> area (by the firewall)?  The intake from the airbox would be ducted
> back to the "tray", a port would be added easily enough, water drainage
> is already done...if one would want to add some external ducting, it
> could be in the form of a little scoop over the existing vents in the
> hood...
>
> Worth considering?
>
> Ron
> --- Lauri Pettai <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee> wrote:
> > I've been wondering, is there a possibility to rebuild the
> > front end of the Scirocco so that you can unscrew it if you
> > like? Like you can do it with golfs. Then I'd do it so that
> > I'd put the radiator a bit lower to make the room for the
> > cool air intake. Lot of custom building, but it might be
> > worth it?
> >
> > Hood scoop thingie is not going to work as the place where
> > you'd have to put the scoop has actually vacuum in there.
> > So no air is going to go in from there. Only out.
> >
> > Lauri!
> > '84 2.0 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > http://www.eabc.edu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > I finally added something new to my site!
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Scott F.
> > Williams
> > > Sent: 04. september 2001. a. 22:54
> > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > >
> > >
> > > As some may know, I have considered and researched these throttle
> > bodies for
> > > my own car. I absolutely do not want install a scoop in my hood.
> > So, I'm
> > > looking into costs for a custom-built rad that is shorter and wider
> > -thus
> > > allowing cool air to flow in through the grill. Or, perhaps there
> > is a stock
> > > fitment for another car that'll do the trick. I'll follow up with
> > some
> > > details later.
> > > ______________________________
> > > Scott F. Williams
> > > Account Manager
> > > GENUiTY - Eastern Region
> > > 100 Wall Street, 10th Floor
> > > New York, NY 10005
> > > Voice: 212.416.1745
> > > Cell: 917.648.2256
> > > Fax: 212.618.5160
> > > scott.williams@genuity.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T Berk
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:29 PM
> > > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > > Cc: Victor Farren; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lauri Pettai wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok the manufacturer of the TB's went the easy way and drilled a
> > > > hole to the
> > > > > 4th runner and tapped the vacuum line there and that's it. I'm
> > > > a bit afraid
> > > > > to do
> > > > > this as it would make the cyl's to work uneqally and on racing
> > > > conditions
> > > > > with lot of sudden and strong breaking etc. it could melt your
> > > > pistons. :(
> > > > > I already worr about my engine as two cylinders get the hot air
> > > > trough the
> > > > > radiator and two cylinders get the cool air directly from
> > > > grill. And already
> > > > > that's
> > > > > not good. So lots of work to do still. I'm wondering is there
> > > > any radiators
> > > > > that
> > > > > are long and not very high so that I could use the upper part
> > > > of the grill
> > > > > to
> > > > > feed cool air to throttlebodies and lower to cool the water?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The 1st thing I thought was a hood scoop to feed cool outside
> > air. Put a
> > > > screen across it to keep large chunks out and away you go.
> > > >
> > > > Looks cool with those trumpets on there; one of the things I
> > don't like
> > > > about the cross flow motors is the intake runners across the top
> > of the
> > > > head. Makes later model engines too tall for Sciroccos.
> > > >
> > > > TBerk
> > > >
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