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Re: *ENGINE CEASE UPDATE* (long)
gotta love the Mitsu for that one. my friend Mack has a theory and it makes
sense, here is what he said:
***
I have another idea as to what may have happened!!!! You could have very
well pumped all of your oil to the top of your engine by keeping the rpms so
high!
DO NOT LAUGH!!!! I am serious about this. If you pumped all of the oil to
the head, you would get air in the pump, resulting in no oil pressure. this
is where your OP light turns on and the scary buzzer starts screaming. then,
when the car stopped running, you added
extra oil the oil.then when you checked the oil later, it has all fallen to
the bottom of the engine, hence your huge amount of extra oil. THEN when you
checked the plugs, there was extra oil on the threads because all of the oil
pressure pushed oil through the gasket that separates the head from the
valve cover. I AM TEH WINNAR!!!!!1
This is why porsches run dry sump systems. also it keeps the foam out of the
oil. NASCAR cars run scavanging pumps in the valve covers to keep oil moving
through the engine to prevent this from occuring, because running a V8 at
7500rpms for a couple hours will do the same thing.
***
this makes sence. he is TEH WINNAR!1 after all. but how do i prevent this
from happening again? just not redline it? what fun is that? what if i
*want* to go 120? thanks guys!
-Craig
"Nightmare" '88 16v (soon to be g60 Turbo!!)
>From: Cheapass Ron <rapieper@yahoo.com>
>To: Jerry Carter <jerry.carter@shaw.ca>, Scirocco List
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>, B-Boy Krazy Horse
><nightmare16v1988@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: *ENGINE CEASE UPDATE* (long)
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:44:13 -0800 (PST)
>
>I agree here. Having a head full of oil sounds like a reasonable guess
>as to what happened.
>
>Get a new or charged battery and see if it turns over; if so, fire it
>up and watch oil pressure and listen for clunk-clunk noise. If noise
>then it was shot already so no further harm done; if no noise and
>reasonable oil pressure then you actually may be able to get a few more
>miles out of it.
>
>Then, pull the valve cover off and see why the oil may not have drained
>back into the block so it doesn't happen again and check for damage
>there.
>
>Dropping the pan and sliding in new main and rod bearings is *so* easy
>it may save you the hassle of a swap and rebuild, depending on
>compression and hot oil pressure.
>
>FWIW, I once borrowed a Mitisubish van and the oil filter blew up -
>separated at the seam - pumping all the oil out steadily over a
>one-mile stretch. That engine also appeared shot and would not turn
>over. The owner's mechanic refilled it, charged the battery, and
>presto, it ran fine (all the way to the dealer to be traded in). So
>all may not be lost.
>
>Ron
>
>--- Jerry Carter <jerry.carter@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Wasn't this settled as a possible plugged oil drain hole?the pump
> > pushes all
> > the oil to the head but due to a blockage the oil wouldn't flow back
> > down,
> > or at least that the way that I remember it (I don't think I paid
> > much
> > attention to that thread)I'd say take the thing out, take it apart,
> > clean
> > EVERYTHING and put it back together and drop it back in! How's that
> > for a
> > fun winter project?
> >
>now
> > > im starting to worry. we let it sit for five minuets and check the
> > oil
> > > level, at first it says there is nothing, but new oil is impossible
> > to see
> > > in the dark. i touched the dip stick and there was oil on it, fresh
> > oil. i
> > > turn the key...one little turn over...then nothing. wait about 10
> > more
> > > minuets, doesnt even try to turn over. so im like..."FUCK! The
> > engine
> > > seized!". i live only about two or three miles from where i was, so
> > i had
> > > AAA tow me home. thats the bad news. the good new is that now i
> > really
> > have
> > > some guption to put in that new engine. i also was having fun with
> > another
> > > car worthy of my race (at least it was a BMW, not a Honda).
> > >
> > > Monday, November 26, 2001
> > > well today i went out to see how bad it really was. car would not
> > > even turn over. i checked under the car for leaks, there were none.
> > i also
> > > check my oil level, it was double what it should be. i drained out
> > a
> > gallon
> > > of oil (that was how much i put on on the side of the road) and put
> > my car
> > > in 4th. i tried rocking the car, and luckly, the belts started to
> > move. i
> > am
> > > now able to push the car in gear for a little bit,before i have to
> > start
> > > rocking it again. i also have it turning over,but it wont start. i
> > will
> > take
> > > the spark plugs out to see if there is anything weird on them (i
> > dont
> > really
> > > know what the hell i am looking for, they were *brand new* Bosh
> > Platinums
> > > too!!) i will also see how the engine turns over with the plugs out
> > and if
> > i
> > > am getting compression.does anyone have any idea wtf happened to me
> > that
> > > night? could this be a failed oil pump? is there any electrical
> > that could
> > > be wrong? wtf?
> > >
> > > Tuesday, November 27, 2001
> > > checked out the plugs, they look brand new. there was oil, however,
> > > around the threads, a little more than usual, but it might be that
> > i
> > > am just noticing it more now. i still have to check the compression
> > > (dont really know why, it will just make me sleep easier knowing
> > its not
> > > that fucked). the engine did turn over much easier with the plugs
> > out, but
> > > its still wont turn over with the plugs in. i thought about taking
> > the oil
> > > pan off, but i dont really have the gumption anymore. i also check
> > for
> > metal
> > > shavings in the oil, it was clean, pretty much like new oil.
> > >
> > > Today, December whatever, 2001
> > > kinda ironic that i got this new g60 engine (im the one that got it
> > > off eBay) about a week or two before all this went down. i am
> > getting a
> > > Garrett T3 for $125 (used), the ECU and engine wire harness for
> > $100 (also
> > > used) and i am still looking for the fuel rail and injectors
> > (perferably
> > > used). if anyone knows where to get an 8v turbo manifold used,
> > please, let
> > > me know. i really dont want to have to get one new for $275 (i am
> > one
> > cheap
> > > Mo Fo when it comes to these things, if you cant tell, i try to get
> > them
> > > used). right now i saw on eBay the complete engine wire harness,
> > fuse box,
> > > and ECU w/ Neuspeed P-Chip with the "Buy It Now" for $325 (of
> > course,
> > used).
> > > seems a little high, but i dont know.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Craig
> > >
> > > "Nightmare" '88 16v (in Critical Condition from a massive heart
> > > attack)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>=====
>Cheapass Ron
>"Victor" '87 16V Scirocco
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