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Re: help me out here

To: "Bill Scarince" <scarince@mediaone.net>, "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>, "scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Subject: Re: help me out here
From: "Bobby Griffin" <strtstr@mediaone.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:00:32 -0400
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i said..nuthing catches.......doesnt make something spin in the cvs..just
NOTHING
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Scarince" <scarince@mediaone.net>
To: "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>; "scirocco List"
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: help me out here


> Well, you're right.  My point was that someone with this problem will
> *think* they have a tranny problem that would be described by saying "I
put
> it into gear but it won't 'catch'."  The tranny could be fine, but they
> wouldn't know it, because the car doesn't move when they let out the
clutch.
> I get suspicious of a diagnosis from someone "who was not an enthusiast in
> the least".
>
> I wouldn't think this was a likely scenario if I hadn't seen it myself
once.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>
> To: "scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Bill Scarince"
> <scarince@mediaone.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: help me out here
>
>
> > I said Shift linkage not clutch cable. 2 different things,
> > if the clutch cable is functional and the shift linkage is not, the
clutch
> > feels fine the stick shift will
> > work into positions but the linkage is not transmitting the shifter
> changes
> > to the tranny, thus leaving it into neutral.
> >
> > The cv joint has nothing close or by far any relation with
> > transmission/shifting problems in any case.
> >     ___  ___________
> >    /   |/_  __/ ___/  A Texan's Scirocco 1985 8v
> >   / /| | / /  \__ \   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> >  / ___ |/ /  ___/ /   (AIM) patricdlc, (ICQ) 32918816
> > /_/  |_/_/  /____/
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Scarince" <scarince@mediaone.net>
> > To: <pbureau@home.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: help me out here
> >
> >
> > > I bet it's not shift linkage.  I'd bet its a broken CV joint.  He
> doesn't
> > > say that the clutch pedal is laying on the floor, and he says that the
> > shift
> > > feels fine.........so he puts it in gear and lets off the clutch and
the
> > one
> > > half-shaft just turns in the cv joint......
> > >
> > > My $.02
> > >
> > > Bill Scarince
> > > Some Sciroccos
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Patrick Bureau" <patricdlc@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: help me out here
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > okay to check linkage , take a look at this web address (below in
tag
> > > line)
> > > > to my tech note on shift linkage replacement, it will give you an
idea
> > > where
> > > > to look for, and then check the "change clutch cable technote..
> > > > in this case self explanatory in pictures.
> > > >
> > > >     ___  ___________
> > > >    /   |/_  __/ ___/  A Texan's Scirocco 1985 8v
> > > >   / /| | / /  \__ \   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > > > / ___ |/ /  ___/ /   (AIM) patricdlc, (ICQ) 32918816
> > > > /_/  |_/_/  /____/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > From: "Bobby Griffin" <strtstr@mediaone.net>
> > > > To: <pbureau@home.com>, <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > CC: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: help me out here
> > > > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:38:04 -0400
> > > >
> > > > OK..what can I do to check and diagnose exactly what is wrong? I
mean
> > can
> > > I
> > > > just get under the thing and look around? Should I just follow the
> > clutch
> > > > cable and pull on it for tension? Not totally inept here, but not a
> > > mechanic
> > > > either and have NO knowledge of trannies or clutches, but I would
like
> > to
> > > > get the car back and do something with it. It's only about a block
> away
> > > too,
> > > > so checking on it is a cinch.
> > > > thanx again to all who have responded so far..it sounds better than
I
> > > > suspected at this point.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Patrick Bureau" <patricdlc@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: help me out here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  > I am not sure what you mean by editorial comment about teh shift
> > > linkage,
> > > >  > but I meant that if the shifter is moving around fine into
> > > >  > each gear position (in the car ) it is possible that one of teh
> > linkage
> > > > has
> > > >  > come off the position and therefore no actual gears are selected
> > > >  > and the car though you push it in first, remains into neutral.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >     ___  ___________
> > > >  >    /   |/_  __/ ___/  A Texan's Scirocco 1985 8v
> > > >  >   / /| | / /  \__ \   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > > >  > / ___ |/ /  ___/ /   (AIM) patricdlc, (ICQ) 32918816
> > > >  > /_/  |_/_/  /____/
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > >  > From: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > > >  > Reply-To: jdbubb@ix.netcom.com
> > > >  > To: Patrick Bureau <pbureau@home.com>
> > > >  > CC: scirocco List <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>, T Berk
> > > > <tberk@mindspring.com>
> > > >  > Subject: Re: help me out here
> > > >  > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:12:07 -0400
> > > >  >
> > > >  > So, Patrick:
> > > >  > Is that an editorial comment on the Scirocco shift linkage??
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Patrick Bureau wrote:
> > > >  >  >
> > > >  >  > sounds like snapped cable, shit linkage popped out
(notcatching
> > any
> > > > gears
> > > >  >  > but shifting fine)
> > > >  >  >     ___  ___________
> > > >  >  >    /   |/_  __/ ___/  A Texan's Scirocco 1985 8v
> > > >  >  >   / /| | / /  \__ \   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > > >  >  >  / ___ |/ /  ___/ /   (AIM) patricdlc, (ICQ) 32918816
> > > >  >  > /_/  |_/_/  /____/
> > > >  >  >
> > > >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  >  > From: "T Berk" <tberk@mindspring.com>
> > > >  >  > To: "Bobby Griffin" <strtstr@mediaone.net>
> > > >  >  > Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > >  >  > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:26 AM
> > > >  >  > Subject: Re: help me out here
> > > >  >  >
> > > >  >  > > Bobby Griffin wrote:
> > > >  >  > > >
> > > >  >  > > > OK so I sold my 85 Scirocco to a frriend who was not an
> > > enthusiast
> > > > in
> > > >  >  > the
> > > >  >  > > > least. I had just had a rebuilt transmission put in when i
> > sold
> > > it
> > > > to
> > > >  >  > him a
> > > >  >  > > > year ago. The other day he calls and says he cant get any
> gear
> > > to
> > > >  > catch.
> > > >  >  > he
> > > >  >  > > > can shift to all gears, but none catch. So he goes and
buys
> > > > another
> > > >  > car
> > > >  >  > > > today and says I can buiy the roc back for 4 hundred or
so.
> > Now
> > > my
> > > >  >  > > > question..is this a sympton of blown tranny or bad clutch?
I
> > > know
> > > > not
> > > >  >  > which
> > > >  >  > > > and I havent even tried it maself. i want the car back,
but
> if
> > > > it's
> > > >  > the
> > > >  >  > > > tranny, the car will be up for parts or rebuilding. I am
jax
> > > >  >  > > > Florida/....email all questions to me and I'll respond
> > promptly
> > > >  >  > > > Bobby griffin
> > > >  >  > > >
> > > >  >  > > > --
> > > >  >  > >
> > > >  >  > > Phtht. Snapped clutch cable. Unless he dogged the thing it's
> an
> > > easy
> > > >  >  > > one.
> > > >  >  > >
> > > >  >  > > Gimme more symptoms, my physic powers need a recharge.
> > > >  >  > >
> > > >  >  > > TBerk
> > > >  >  > >
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References:
- Re: help me out here
  - From: "Bill Scarince" <scarince@mediaone.net>
- Re: help me out here
  - From: "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>
- Re: help me out here
  - From: "Bill Scarince" <scarince@mediaone.net>

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