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Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T



The only problem with the triptronic transmission is that it shifts for you once you hit 6000rpm.  I test drove one the other day with the sixer - WOW.
Oliver Toronto 88Scirocco8V Slegato

> I can only partially disagree with you Mike.  I haven't driven the 5 speed
> Passat but the tiptronic definitely a better ride than the automatic.  As
> far as flat out acceleration, I have no basis for comparison but you can
> wind out the gears without flooring the car.  Most autos shift too early for
> my taste unless you're gunning it.  The tiptronic alleviates that problem
> with no discernable delay from a dead stop.  I'm wondering if there's a
> weight factor difference between the auto and stick.  If my wife drove a
> 5-speed that's what would be in there, but I think that the tiptronic is a
> good compromise.  Anyway, she really digs the beetle and I've started
> teaching her to drive it, so I may end up in the Passat soon.
> 
> It seems weird.  I've got two new cars outside in the snow now and the 14
> year old roc in the heated garage.  On second thought, it's not so weird.
> 
> 
> - Jan Folkson   
>     
> '86 16V            
> '99 Passat 1.8T  
> '00 Beetle GLX 1.8T
>  
> 
> > From: Mike VanAmburgh <vwvr6r@fiber.net>
> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:54:56 -0700
> > To: Scirocco <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
> > Subject: Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T
> > 
> > Damn, forgot to finish the reply before sending.  :-)  I wanted to
> > comment on your Passat vs Beetle statement.  I assume your New Beetle is
> > a 5 speed?  If yes, that would definitely explain your New Beetle being
> > 'MUCH' quicker than the Passat.  The first 1.8T car I test drove at the
> > dealer was a Tiptronic Passat (didn't have manuals at the time in
> > stock), while trying out the 'manual' shifting.  To me, it made
> > absolutely no acceleration difference compared to just leaving the thing
> > in automatic.  I left that car very disappointed with the 1.8T thinking
> > 'what's the hype?'.  I went back a week or so later and went for a spin
> > in a 5 speed 1.8T Passat.  The difference is night and day!  I was
> > amazed how well the 1.8T moved the ~3100+ pound Passat with the 5 speed.
> > Eventually, my VR6 Jetta will get traded in on a 1.8T Passat.  The
> > question is, do I want to wait to see if they will offer 4Motion and 5
> > speed with the 1.8T or just settle for the front wheel drive?  I have a
> > big itch to get a Passat.  The wife and I both LOVE the new ones,
> > especially since now they put a little design in the hood.  Before it
> > was just a big, huge flat thing, now it has the 'raised' area.  Sure,
> > call me a freak, but it's a pet peave of mine to look out and see a
> > stylish hood. ;-)
> > 
> > I haven't driven a 1.8T New Beetle yet, so can't really say anything on
> > the difference of the auto/5 speed in them, but I would have to bet that
> > you'd find the same results as I did with the Passat.
> > 
> > The moral of the story?  Tiptronic = glorified automatic.  :-)
> > 
> > -Mike
> > 
> > Jan Folkson wrote:
> >> 
> >> According to EC the Turbo Beetle put out 180hp on the dyno.  Their
> >> conclusion was that the beetle had the Audi TT chip on board and were going
> >> to report further when they had more info.  So far no word.  But owning both
> >> the 1.8T Passat and Turbo Beetle, I can tell you that the beetle is much
> >> faster and I mean MUCH.  The weight difference is only about 150lbs. and
> >> would probably not account for that big a difference.  Also the Passat is an
> >> automatic but I always drive it with the tiptronic.  Not sure if not having
> >> a clutch would account for the difference either.
> >> 
> >> BTW, Shannon, how much did the chip cost and does it mess with the warranty?
> >> 
> >> - Jan Folkson
> >> 
> >> '86 16V
> >> '99 Passat 1.8T
> >> '00 Beetle GLX 1.8T
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> From: Mike VanAmburgh <vwvr6r@fiber.net>
> >>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:26:03 -0700
> >>> To: Scirocco <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T
> >>> 
> >>> The last Eclipse turbo was running 210 hp.  With a Garrett chip, the
> >>> 1.8T puts out torque from hell (more than the Eclipse).  The Eclipses
> >>> have turbo lag and the Passat 1.8T has very little.  The powerband on
> >>> the 1.8T is way better than the Eclipse turbo.  For more info on Garrett
> >>> chips, check out <http://www.giacusa.com>.
> >>> 
> >>> For example, a stock 150 hp 1.8T moves the aerodynamically-challenged
> >>> ~2900 pound New Beetle in 15.9 seconds.  Remember the comparo against
> >>> the 160 hp ~2600 pound Civic Si?  The Beetle kicked it's ass with more
> >>> weight and less hp.
> >>> 
> >>> -Mike
> >>> 
> >>> Timothy A Reed wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:24:35 EST Testastrega@aol.com writes:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Put the garret chip in my roomates 1.8T today. Job took all of 5
> >>>> minutes for
> >>>>> 47hp. The car hauls major ASS! I was getting groceries (yeah right) and
> >>>> raced
> >>>>> a older Mitsu Eclipse turbo....hehe..I smoke his ass through every
> >>>> gear! Wish
> >>>>> I could just plug in 47hp in the damn roc....
> >>>> 
> >>>> The 1.8T motor has 150 hp stock.  150+47=197.  The Mitsubishi Eclipse has
> >>>> (I think) 190 or 195 hp and is a lighter car (unless the AWD system adds
> >>>> significant weight, but it also provides better traction).  The way I see
> >>>> it, the Eclipse should have won.  What am I missing?  Torque curve of the
> >>>> new turbo motor, perhaps?
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Timothy A. Reed, Esq.
> >>>> t.a.reed.esq@juno.com
> >>>> Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the
> >>>> Lord.
> >>>> Romans 12:11
> >>>> 
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