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Re: the time has come again....



Wow Lerb, you make some really good points, why should you listen to people
who tell you horror stories about EIP, they are probably just lying because
it is the internet, and thats what the internet if for.
  I hope EIP give you a really good deal now that you have convinced
everyone here on the list that EIP is good and all the other claims are
false......how much are they payin you anyway?

As for this....

>. I agree with you 100% that you
>should not have to demand that you car be done right/quickly <---more what
I
>was getting at) BUT HEY if you don't WHo willl?

Thats why people go to other shops, because they don't have to make it a
huge pain in the ass to get the stuff done right.

>Dont listen to what people on the net say before you go and see for
>yourself.....Then you have a complaint..

Now that is some really good advice, don't listen to people that have heard
the horror stories, go so you can be the next to post your shitty experience
to the internet, so more people can ignore it, so they can find out for
themselves.  Boy, i'm glad to be in cAnada.  hehe.  wtf does that mean?

Dude, when Mannix got under your skin, at least he had good points.


Owen
87 Scirocco 16v #38 C-SS.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1571


>Like I said I have heard nothing bad from the people I have actually seen
>with things done to there car by EIP...I have seen alot of people who would
>never have anything done to there car like you who live in BFE compaired to
>EIP pissing and moaning about how bad something is that they have never
even
>seen....Now come on does this really make sense?....Like I said I have seen
>at least 5 kits installed by Eip I have talked to the owners...I have heard
>only that they took a little longer than they would have liked....(damn my
>rabbits been in the shop for a month now>
>
>
>I would understand the complaint if you even saw something from EIP
(besides
>in mags). Just for fun I took all the bitches and names of the real people
>bitching to EIP one friday i had off just to see if they knew anyone who
was
>bitchin about them. They knew only one person....a guy who has a little
shop
>three miles down the street...GOOOOO FIGURE why would he want them to look
>bad? I have seen soo many good places get bitched about when people have
>never bought anything from them or even talked to them.....When I see
>someone bitchen hell thats where I head first...I will know when I get
there
>if they are actually so bad....Ohh well I say I am glad to B in the Us
hehe.
>Dont listen to what people on the net say before you go and see for
>yourself.....Then you have a complaint..
>----- Original Message -----
>From: T Berk <tberk@mindspring.com>
>To: Mike <lerb@redrose.net>
>Cc: Joshua Strait <joshua13s@hotmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 12:03 AM
>Subject: Re: the time has come again....
>
>
>>Out here on the West Coast we have tuning shops as well, local to me is
>>New Dimensions. Apples & Pears but still similar fruit.
>>
>>All I can say about it is if enough people had the kind of problems w/
>>ND that I hear about EIP, it would be a smoking crater by now.
>>
>>Why should I _have_ to demand my car be done right? I'm _paying_ for the
>>privilege.  What's this sound like, the ones who had a bad time were too
>>wimpy or something. Huh?
>>
>>TBerk
>>Things may have changed for the better, more power to um'.
>>
>>
>>Mike wrote:
>>>
>>> I have heard alot of negatives on this list. But I can say first hand
>that I
>>> have also seen some nice and clean installs they did. I have ridden in a
>>> jetta with a 300+ hp Vr6 in it and let me tell you thats the fatsest car
>I
>>> have been in to the date. In my opinion you only get the service you
>demand.
>>> I am having problems also with a garage right now and I just told them
>what
>>> I wanted...no less no more....Alot of shops try to raise the prices on
>>> things...I say buyer beware......I have seen three kits done by EIP and
I
>>> believe they are the nicest installer on the east coast. I just hope if
I
>>> ever have anything done by them that I do not get caught in all the
>>> polotics.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joshua Strait <joshua13s@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 9:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: the time has come again....
>>>
>>> >Just to add, for shits and giggles I called EIP tuning a while back to
>>> >ask about their turbos and such.  They say they could get 400 hp from a
>>> >16v 2.1L block.  They would put in thier 2.1L block, port and polish a
>>> >head, intercooler, put in a new computer, plus all of the engine/ turbo
>>> >management gizmos that are needed, all for $12000.  I was dreaming
about
>>> >this until I heard all of the flack EIP was catching.  Is EIP a bunch
of
>>> >assholes? are they legit?  If and when I ever get the money (it's fun
to
>>> >dream)is this a whorthwile venture, or is EIP a place to run from???
>>> >
>>> >Josh
>>> >'88 Scirocco 16v
>>> >
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