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Re: what a SHITTY day for my 87..
well, i just got back from the hardware store (tlak about a grand auto
job...) i've got a bunch of the metal mending plates to "mend" the seat
frame back together. (i'll put pictures of this god awful "fix" up on the
web later)
dave
At 01:14 PM 7/30/99 -0700, Ian Overholt wrote:
>Well, intuitive might not be the word I would describe dismantling the upper
>part of the seat. Although it is easy to see what has to be removed to
>accomplish the job, actually removing some of the things is very hard. The
>bent pieces attached to the seat frame on the bottom are easy to bend back.
>Then you can lift out the middle portion of the seat cushion. Now you can
>see tiny staple-like things that wrap around the spring frame on the inside.
> Carefully unbend these. Be very sure not to pull too hard on any one
>piece of fabric because you do not want to tear the fabric. As you get to
>the top of the inner cushion, there is a rod that goes accross the seat with
>more staples attached to it. Remove all these staples too. Remove the side
>release handle and trim piece.
>
>Once you are sure you have every last staple released, you can start to
>slide the fabric up the frame. Probably the hardest part is removing the
>plastic headrest mounts. Pulling the fabric up will give you better access
>to the back side of the mounts. This is definitely a two person job. I
>used a socket to defeat the fingers on the mount and a screwdriver for
>leverage to pull the mount out of the seat. It's hard to describe and hard
>to do. Once you have these pieces out, your fabric will be unattached from
>the seat.
>
>Now you can simply slip your fabric over your new frame. And as the Bentley
>says, assembly is the reverse of disassembly. Getting everything stretched
>tight and bending the staples back around the wires is easier with an extra
>set of hands.
>
>With the broken frame, you do risk damaging your fabric. So I would suggest
>that if you have to drive around before you can fix the driver's seat, you
>can switch the upper part of the passenger seat onto the driver's lower
>part. Finding untorn fabric for the upper part of the driver's seat is VERY
>hard!! Don't tear yours!!!
>
>Bring your seat tomorrow, we'll help you get it apart!
>
>HTH,
>Ian Overholt
>'88 16v
>'78 Pre-S S
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
From: David Liu <dyliu@pacbell.net>
>To: "Ian Overholt" <ioverholt@hotmail.com>, 104372.1061@compuserve.com,
> scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: what a SHITTY day for my 87..
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:02:11 -0700
>
>
>i'm going to have a look at it tomorrow morning (i hope the fabric -
>leather - doesn't rip!!). is this an intuitive dismantle project?? does the
>bentley have any info on it? if it's the metal frame and it's salvagable
>(the way i've pictured it in my head) i may just try to bolt the thing
>together. more details later.
>seeya
>dave
>
>
>
>
>At 09:44 AM 7/30/99 -0700, Ian Overholt wrote:
> >I looked more closely at your original message and saw that you have
>broken
> >the upper half. Bummer. You will need to find a driver's side upper from
>a
> >Scirocco. If your fabric is still good, it can be reused on the new
>frame.
> >Like I said before, switching the foam & fabric on the upper part of the
> >seat is hard! One of the hardest parts was removing the plastic plugs in
> >the top where the headrest mounts. I think the method that finally worked
> >was jamming a socket on the inside end while pulling up on the top side.
> >Talk about overengineering!! That plastic piece just pops in, but it's
>not
> >intended to come out!
> >
> >Ian Overholt
> >'88 16v (with rebuilt lower driver's seat)
> >'78 pre-S S (needs upper fabric on both front seats)
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Kathy Teulie <104372.1061@compuserve.com>
> >To: "Ian Overholt" <ioverholt@hotmail.com>, scirocco-l@scirocco.org,
> >dyliu@pacbell.net
> >Subject: Re: what a SHITTY day for my 87..
> >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:01:40 -0400
> >
> >My friend Frank broke his seat frame like you did. You can use
> >several upper frames to replace yours. Jetta GLI 2 door A1 and A2's will
> >fit.
> >If you can, get a Scirocco seat back. You can even use a passenger seat
> >back but all the controls will be on the other side. I've replaced upper
> >and
> >lower seat fabric before. It is best not to try to replace the upper seat
> >back
> >fabric if you are new to this stuff. Just get a good frame with matching
> >fabric.
> >The lower frame is Scirocco only! Do not try to put a Golf or Jetta lower
> >seat
> >frame in your Scirocco. You would need to be about 3 feet tall to
> >drive your car with out hitting your head on the roof : O.
> >Doug
> >
> >Message text written by "Ian Overholt"
> > >
> >That's some bad news. Replacing the door isn't that bad, but if the dent
> >looks easy to straighten, it could be worth fixing. I just bought a '78
> >with a good dent in the driver's door and I'm going to replace the door.
> >
> >On the seat issue, is the break in the upper or lower part of the seat?
> >The
> >lower part is much easier to replace. If your fabric is worn out on the
> >lower part, now is the time to change it. All the lower seat foam and
> >fabric are the same on the driver and passenger seat, so all you have to
>do
> >
> >is find a junkyard car with a decent passenger seat (much easier than
> >finding an intact driver's seat). Then get a driver's seat (fabric/foam
> >condition doesn't matter) and put the passenger seat fabric and foam on
>the
> >
> >new driver's seat frame. Does this make sense? I've replaced upper and
> >lower seat fabric before. The upper is much harder because there are a
>lot
> >
> >more places where the fabric is attached to the frame and there are pieces
> >going back and forth and around things and popping out the plastic pieces
> >where the headrests mount is REALLY hard.
> >
> >You're in the bay area, right? Come to the meet on Saturday. I'll show
> >you
> >what I'm talking about. :)
> >
> >Ian Overholt
> >'88 16v
> >'78 Pre-S S<
> >
> >
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