Re: front sway-bar problems

[J Buck <vwpride@mixi.net>]

The "bar" I referred to in my post was the 22mm Autotech front bar from the original
post.  I was explaining the benefits of the big front bar.  I just didn't want there
to be any confusion.

jim

William J Erikson wrote:

> This is not the gospel truth. Many people think this, but I for one
> disagree for the following reasons:
> 1. The fastest people at DSP Nationals this year were running huge front
> bars, NO rear bars (in Rabbits, that is).
> 2. My car feels better with the front bar. I have a 28mm rear and 22
> front, and I felt the handling improved more with the 22mm front than
> with the 28mm rear. I have very stiff front springs as well. I also
> prefer a car to understeer than oversteer- it feels more predictable and
> safe to me. I don't like body roll, and rear bars do little to control
> body roll on our cars, since most of the weight is up front.
> That said, I drove Joe's car with the Shine setup (no front bar, massive
> rear bar, 500# front springs, coilovers, Bilstein sports), and I love it.
> The front springs make up for the lack of front bar, which is usually
> considered to be a good thing because then the front suspension retains
> its independence and therefore the tendency to spin the inside front
> wheel on corner exit is reduced. However, I'm not sure that I like the
> handling feel BETTER than my car (although his is much better set up -
> his has better exhaust and race tires, and overall is just... well,
> better, so I do like his car better).
>         YMMV and obviously people are doing everything from one end of the board
> to the other and a lot of different things work.
>         -Josiah
>
> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:07:56 -0500 "H Jones" <hjones1@airmail.net>
> writes:
> >The best solution would be to remove the bar completely.
> >The Scirocco will understeer / push even without a front bar.
> >Dump the front bar and install a "beefy" rear bar. If the front
> >bar was being used to control body-roll, get stiffer springs.
> >
> >Your Rocco will handle much better without the front bar!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: J Buck <vwpride@mixi.net>
> >To: Michael Leach <scirocco16v_1@yahoo.com>
> >Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 6:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: front sway-bar problems
> >
> >
> >> I have that bar, and autocrossed it for 2 seasons without any
> >brackets
> >> breaking, but during last winter, I went into a steady-state curve,
> >and
> >got
> >> a "whump-whump, bhump-whump" sound from down there, where the
> >bracket that
> >> goes on the a-arm had severed, allowing the bar to come in contact
> >with
> >the
> >> cv boot on heavy corner loads.  Unbelievably, it didn't damage the
> >cv
> >boot.
> >> Just make sure it's installed properly, i.e. bar is centered, and is
> >not
> >> coming in contact on the ends with the cv boots.  There may be
> >another
> >> problem afoot as well.
> >>
> >> jim
> >>
> >> Michael Leach wrote:
> >>
> >> > I recently purchased a used ABD 22mm front sway bar and ever since
> >I
> >> > get all kinds of rumbling and bumping noises whenever I hit any
> >kind of
> >> > bump I must have done something wrong because it sounds terrible.
> >I am
> >> > sure it is on right and Brett V did check it briefly and said it
> >looked
> >> > right....does anyone else have this bar?..Jim Jarrett said
> >something
> >> > about being sure it is installed unloaded but I am not really
> >clear
> >> > what that means...it sounds soooo bad I have to fix this soon!!!!
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > ===
> >> > Michael Leach--Rochester,NY
> >> > 87 16v Red semi-show
> >> > 87 16v Black winter(thanks Neal Tovsen)
> >> > 85 Jetta getting rid of!!!!
> >> > 91 Ford Explorer XLT(thanks Jim Jarrett)
> >> >    any input on maintenance would
> >> >    be greatly appreciated
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