close ratio tranny, was: RE: 16v purchasing

[Chris Coracini <Coracin@usdl.com>]

actually, the 2H has the exact same gear ratios as the 2Y (or whatever
tranny you have in your 16V, stock...).  the only difference is the 3.94
final drive vs. the 3.67 final drive in yours.  so the rpm's drop exactly
the same amount in each gear, but each gear in the 2H has a little more
leverage than each gear in the 2Y, thus the higher rate of acceleration...

chris
86 16V scirocco


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Neal Tovsen [SMTP:ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu]
> Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 4:51 PM
> To:	Chris Coracini; Scirocco-L
> Subject:	RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> 
> Personally, I'm not sure I would want a lower 1st or 2nd gear. The 16v RPM
> range is so narrow that you need the close-ratio tranny to keep it in the
> upper RPMs. I'm guessing that your RPMs drop more than mine after a gear
> change, so it probably doesn't stay as much in the optimum range. I might
> sacrifice a little right off the line in first compared to you, but as
> soon
> as my RPMs come up, they never go down again. Then again, I figure if I
> still have trouble avoiding wheel-spin in 1st, I must limited by the tires
> and my ability, since the engine obviously has enough uumph to push the
> tires to the limit, right? If that's true, I just need a little more work
> with my gas/clutch movement. A 2.0 block might change all that talk about
> narrow RPM range, though.
> 
> This is all purely logical deduction, so I may be talkin' outta my arse
> here...
> 
> Neal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Coracini [mailto:Coracin@usdl.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:32 PM
> > To: 'Neal Tovsen'; Scirocco-L (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> >
> >
> > sorry, i was just comparing engines, my mistake.  then again, i
> > have a 2H in
> > mine, so i guess i have the best of both worlds?
> >
> > chris
> > 86 16V scirocco
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Neal Tovsen [SMTP:ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu]
> > > Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:13 PM
> > > To:	Chris Coracini; Scirocco-L (E-mail)
> > > Subject:	RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I don't think he actually meant "torque". Greg's 8v has some sort of
> > > short-ratio tranny from a Rabbit with lower 1st and 2nd gears. Off the
> > > line,
> > > it does keep up with me pretty damn well. When I get into second gear,
> > > though...
> > >
> > > Neal
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Coracini [mailto:Coracin@usdl.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 1:12 PM
> > > > To: 'Gregory Frenzel'; Neal Tovsen
> > > > Cc: Scirocco-L
> > > > Subject: RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > uh oh, not start a 16V vs. 8V war...  but, i'd like to say
> > > > that no where on
> > > > the torque curve does the 8V make more torque than the 16V.
> > > > thank you, and
> > > > goodnight.
> > > >
> > > > chris
> > > > 86 16V scirocco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:	Gregory Frenzel [SMTP:fren0027@tc.umn.edu]
> > > > > Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 1:53 PM
> > > > > To:	Neal Tovsen
> > > > > Cc:	Scirocco-L
> > > > > Subject:	Re: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your HP numbers are pretty accurate. I think its something
> > > > like 90 vs.
> > > > > 123.
> > > > > It's a very noticable difference!
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh come on!!  Just put  a close ratio tranny into the 8V
> > > > and suddenly you
> > > > > can keep up with a 16V for, like... 30 feet or so!   Nto to
> > > > mention the
> > > > > torque.   Man, compared to Neal's car, I think I can feel
> > > > mine practically
> > > > > flip whenever I rev it up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > >
> >

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