I was getting my figures from the VW buyer's guide and an Integra brochure as I used to work at an Acura dealer. My buddy's old unmodified 87 16v had never a problem consistently smoking GS-R's at stoplights. Ben -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org