RE: New Fuel Relay but no pump action (The woes continue...)

[Salvatore Guzzo <yu129742@yorku.ca>]

All contacts are fine and I checked for current at the red/black wire.  No
current when it's not connected at the coil.  Is that ok?  It has current
when connected...

Sal



At 06:09 PM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Steel wool on the coil contacts usually works for me....
>
>it could also be a bad connection at the connector for the ignition control 
>unit.
>
>of course the best way to test this part of the thing is to take the wire 
>from the coil to the distributor off the cap and place it close to the 
>shock tower center nut.  Then crank the motor and look for the spark...no 
>spark...then it is definetely the connecitons of the control unit.
>
>Brian Honnold
>'78 Rocco Ragtop
>
>On Monday, November 30, 1998 9:04 PM, Salvatore Guzzo 
>[SMTP:yu129742@yorku.ca] wrote:
>> I just tried reversing the wires like you said, but still nothing.
>> HOWEVER, it did kinda run (the fuel pump that is).  Could it be just a 
>bad
>> connection at the coil.  What can i use to remedy this.
>>
>>
>> Sal
>>
>> At 05:36 PM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
>> >Sal,
>> >Sorry to hear about your troubles
>> >
>> >I have my Bently out and it looks like you have the wires wrong.
>> >
>> >The green from the ignition control unit and the r/bk from the fusebox
>> connect to terminal 1 on the coil.
>> >
>> >The black wires connect to terminal 15....one is from the ignition 
>switch
>> and the other is from the ignition unit.
>> >
>> >Brian Honnold
>> >'78 Rocco Ragtop
>> >
>> >On Monday, November 30, 1998 7:03 PM, Salvatore Guzzo
>> [SMTP:yu129742@yorku.ca] wrote:
>> >> I was hoping to relate a positive message this evening about the car 
>firing
>> >> up and running beautifully.  Unfortunately, such is not the case. 
> Rather
>> >> the woes continue...........
>> >>
>> >> As a recap, I have gone from a carb setup to the favourable fuel 
>injection
>> >> system.  The car is a 84 Rabbit with a new 83 GTI motor.  I had to 
>wire up
>> >> the fuel pump and also purchased a new fuel pump relay.  However, when 
>I
>> >> turn on the ignition switch, I don't hear the fuel pump running.  I
>> >> bypassed the switch by hooking up terminals 30 and 15.  Progress, the 
>fuel
>> >> pump runs.  Great I thought.  Possibly the new fuel pump relay is
>> >> defective.  I call up the dealer and he says that the fuel pump is not
>> >> defective and goes on by saying that terminal 30 has constant power 
>while
>> >> terminal 15 only comes on after the ignition switch is on.  He also
>> >> mentioned that term. 15 is not a ground wire.  I dunno...the Bentley 
>says
>> >> other wise.  So back to the drawing board I went to re-check my 
>wiring....
>> >>
>> >> It turns out that when the key is turned to the on position, I get 
>powerat
>> >> terminals 30, 15 and 1.  Out of curiousity, shouldn't there be power 
>at 87.
>> >>  Terminal 87 runs to the fuel pump and I thought that once the key is
>> >> turned, the relay would allow current flow through terminal 87. This 
>is
>> >> where the terminals are hooked up to..
>> >>
>> >> 30- direct current.....
>> >> 15- ignition switch
>> >> 1- red wire connected to a live wire from the seatbelt relay
>> >> 87- fuel pump and ignition coil
>> >>
>> >> Another thing, i did a test on the ignition coil with the key at the 
>onm
>> >> position.  At terminal 1 at the coil, I get current...At terminal 15, 
>I
>> >> also get current.  Is it possible that I have the coil wires mixed up?
>> >> There are two wires which come from the fuse box.  A red/black wire 
>which
>> >> possesses current and a black one which also possesses current.  The 
>other
>> >> two wires coming from the little box on the driver side near the wiper
>> >> assembly (I forgot what it's called) are green and black, green has
>> >> current, but the black doesn't.  I have the 2 black wires hooked up to
>> >> term. 1 and the green and red/black to term. 15.  Does this all sound
>> >> right?  Further testing shows that the red/black wire flows from term. 
>1 on
>> >> the fuel pump relay while the black wire also matches up with term. 15 
>on
>> >> the relay which hooks up to ignition switch.   What a 
>nightmare!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> I also noticed that on the distributor, there exists a male adaptor 
>which
>> >> seems to me that I must connect something to it.  I'm not sure if such 
>is
>> >> the case.  This is such a PITA.  I had the motor in two weeks ago and 
>I
>> >> still haven't gotten it started..........
>> >>
>> >> Sorry for this post being so long but I need to get some input from
>> >> somewhere.  I know that if I take it to a mechanic, he'll financially 
>drain
>> >> me.  Plus, I'd have to tow it to him.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sal
>> >>
>> >> 81 Scirocco (awaiting a motor transplant)
>> >> 84 Rabbit (awaiting to experience its transplant)
>> >> 67 Peugeot 404 (awaiting for the summer of 99)
>> >>
>> >>
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