Re: G60 in a Rocco

["Wm. Josiah Erikson" <josiah@gsinet.net>]

I just have to disagree on your turbo price. My girlfriend just got her turbo
rebuilt on her '87 Saab 900. Garret Turbo. Price? $250. Price without exchange?
$400.
    -Josiah
    '84 GTI (off the road for the winter)
    '86 Scirocco 8v (buy me!)
    '87 QSW (daily driver)
    http://www.gsinet.net/~josiah


Ryan Schuermann wrote:

> Yeah, well thats like saying, I've seen 10 1.8L 8v engines go bad in
> the last year, so they are all bad! How about listing some
> circumstances please? In any one of those instances, was the cog belt
> replaced within the year or 20,000 miles? Was the oil changed every
> 3,000 miles or 3 months? were the seals replaced? You see when they
> 'go bad' its either a bad bearing (highly unlikely) or just seeping
> seals that can be replaced for $200, the ones that have 'grenaded'
> just needed a new cog belt, or they were spinning them over 90%, how
> many of these 9?? had smaller pullys? I would really appreciate some
> data, I'm not doubting that nearly 10 went bad, I would just like a
> chance to prove that it was most likely due to improper
> maintenence..they JUST don't explode.
>
> The G ladder is a very, very simplistic device, it sanwiches air
> using G shaped fins rotating oblong to each other, it will only
> explode of the two eccentric shafts get unsynched ala no cog belt.
> TEC offer a dual cog belt upgrade that is a really sweet setup.
> If you have low boost out of it,it just means your seals are leaking,
> they can be bought for $100 at places, and any turbo shop can replace
> them for like $100. A lot of misguided information about the G-ladder
> performing poorly is because of huge holes in peoples intercooler
> tubes. Its a known problerm in Corrados that the battery acid leaks
> and eats a fist sized or larger hole in a boost tube, I know 1
> Corrado out of 15 that still had good IC tubes after 60,000. Once we
> replaced them, wow it was like they were driving a new car with
> almost 50 more horsepower In all the cases people would come in
> bitchign about how sucky the Supercharger was..well duh!!.
>
> I may not have worked on as many cars are your shop, but Ive owned
> one, my friends all have them,ive taken them apart and reassembled
> them, and I've grenaded one in my driveway(the cog belt was
> dryrotted)
>
> any maybe some jerk at a shop will charge you 1,000 for a used G
> ladder, but if you use the power of the internet which all of us on
> this list have access to,they can be found from $50 to $500 at the
> MOST used. You cant buy a remanufactured turbo for under $1,000
> and ones at the junkyard are at least $400-$600. Then you gotta buy
> an engine management system,with the G60 unit you just snag the 1.8L
> block and Motronic FI system,and presto you are ready to rock and
> roll.
>
> there is no such thing as high performance longevity. It all boils
> down to how fast you can afford to go, the G60 setup is a very
> inexpensive source of power, and just like any other route, must be
> well maintained. Even if you go out and buy a rotex supercharger, or
> any other turbo, expect to pay more, The G60 -> scirocco is not a
> drop in swap but it's pretty darn close!
>
> Ryan
>
> > > Now onto the
> > >  G-ladder. It is a solid, well engineered unit for what you can pay
> > >  for one. Used ones can be had for hundreds of dollars. Don't believe
> > >  the unreliability hype..they just don't grenade!
> > I have to disagree with you. I've seen nearly ten this year go bad and 2
> > exploded. You're gonna pay closer to a grand for a used one nowadays (hope it
> > works) and a new one is insane. You may have had good luck and I'm happy for
> > you. For the amount of cars I see, it just doesn't add up for longevity (sp?).
> > Once again, this is strictly my opinion. I do this stuff for a living and as I
> > may not be the most knowledgable, experience gives me this opinion. That's
> > all. Peace out.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
>
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