SCCA thread was BFG R1 Team T/A

[Paul Krucke <vwfan53@yahoo.com>]

It would be nice to see VW active with contingencies, but again with
the new models.  But as Iain said there is a better chance with the
small tuners etc.

Iain, you need to be more opimistic about out cars :-)  As for the
Neons, why does everyone think they are the shit?  Every event I have
seen they have done OK and OK with good drivers.  I have driven them
also (not the SCCA model) but would take my 8v Jetta GLi over it any
day and we know that the Jetta isn't exactly a winning formula.  I
think Dodge has done with the Neon what Microsoft has done with their
software-- "Hype" with 'mediocrity' being the reality.  I mean come on
if I advertized an SCCA Suzuki SideKick, someone would buy into it. 
Again I am only speaking from the handful of events I have seen them
in, I could be wrong.

I also looked at a Miata last year, and I can see how they do well as
an Auto-X car, and if I had a budget that allowed me to own one for
just that purpose I might consider one, but talk about a dog on the
highway.  I test drove one with the R package (their sport handling
etc) and I ran out of pull on the on-ramp at about 70mph.  Damn my 16v
pulls harder at that range in 5th gear no less.

But really the VW's are great all around cars, and I think they have
just as much potential....Well maybe not an ASP Corrado;-).  But Neon,
Saturn's,  we better kick their ass.  Hell, maybe the new H2O Beetle
will surprise next year.  I'd race one :-).. 

-Paul
Mission Statement - "Beat the Neon's"


---Iain Mannix <mannix@privateI.com> wrote:
>
> >Iain Mannix wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Paul - the Team TA stuff is a bit wierd, if you ask me.  You
call
> >> 800-race-bfg to get on the "Team," which is simple, free.  You
get a
> >> newsletter, free stickers at events, you're signed up for
contingency
> >> cash(at National Tours, Divisionals and Pros, and of course,
Nationals),
> >>eh, whatever.
> >
> >Hey Mannix, where did you win your $100 bucks? Divisionals? 
ProSoloII?
> 
> Divisionals.  I could probably get cash at a Tour if I get lucky,
but we
> shall see.  I lied - only won $50, but got my Tour entry paid for,
> collected $95 this year, but only $50 was BFG money(worked the Tour
school
> in Denver this year, they pay your entry to do that).  Just looked,
knew I
> "made" $100(95) in 97, but could not remember for the life of me
where the
> second half(45) came from.
> 
> >Just curious.  Hey all you autocrossers out there (you know who you
> >are)...what would you think about automakers getting contingency
> >programs going?
> 
> Some do have contingincies already, um, dunno, say Nology had
something
> going through MR2 Performance Products this year, but that was not
enough
> to make me buy Nology wires.  Mazda, Dodge and BMW already have
> contingincies, but the competition is pretty fierce there.
> 
>  Any ideas on how you would put your "perfect program"
> >together?
> 
> If I were an automaker?  I'd pay for top finishes at a Tour, Pro or
> Divisional(mabye div, maybe not - Divisionals vary widely in
> attendance/competition).  Only pay for new cars, say, for VW,
GolfIII, GTI
> VR6, etc - no sense in paying contingencies for cars they no longer
make.
> VW's best autocross car currently, IMHO, is the HS Golf.  The 4
cylinder
> GTI is not(IMHO) competitive in ES, the Corrado(for comparison) is not
> competitive in GS, neither is the GTI.  I do wonder, though, how
> competitive it would become if they offered cash and the right people
> bought them - I don't think they will, because no one seems to think
the
> GTI VR6 is going to have a chance in hell against the MX6.  Maybe, I
guess,
> but if I were VW, I would not put my money on it.  If they were to put
> money on Rabbits/Sciroccos/A2s, I'd be happy, but I can't see that
> happening - they're not so competitive anymore in ES(sorry, but the
fastest
> 2.0 16v was 30th out of 31 at Nationals or something like that, the
> Celicas, Neons and (now)Saturns are forces to be reckoned with),
with the
> RX3 out of DSP, they will come closer to the top, but it'll be an
upset if
> one wins in 98(I could see it happening, but it would be a BIG
surprise,
> and no one in their right mind is going to put contingencies on such
a slim
> possibility, IMHO).  CSP?  Right.  ASP(Corrado)?  Bwahahaha. I don't
know.
> I'm not optimistic, but if it happened, I'd be into it. Dunno.  I'd
like to
> see more smaller product contingencies - Koni, wheels, maybe
Neuspeed and
> others - I'd guess this would be a viable advertising tool for various
> manufacturers, as it would not cost too much, but then again, most
of these
> "tuner" companies are not all about race/autocross type stuff.  I
get the
> impression they sell more headlight covers than race suspension
stuff, oh
> well....
> 
> 
> I.Mannix
> 
> 
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