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Use of foam as insulator?

Subject: Use of foam as insulator?
From: smithma7 at gmail.com (Mike Smith)
Date: Fri Nov 9 20:50:22 2007
In-reply-to: <50bda39a0711091842w7de3810dlf85174792999b0eb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
References: <W600552924689151194661172@webmail16> <50bda39a0711091842w7de3810dlf85174792999b0eb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
It ain't crazy, it's intentional. :)

<spooky music>Google is in everything......

On Nov 9, 2007 9:42 PM, GGehrke <ggehrke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sort of random, but it's crazy sometimes how spot-on GMail's ads are.
> There's a "Sponsored Link" above this message where the RSS feeds
> usually are that links to "B-Quiet Sound Deadening... The affordable
> sound deadener"
>
> -Grant-
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2007 6:19 PM,  <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Ok I checked EBAY and found some stuff. I figure 50 SFt should do the under carpet area.
> > Money is a bit of a problem as I still have several hundred in paint, rubber and headliner.
> > I should have costed this out a LOT better :)
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 05:34 PM
> > >To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> > >Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >
> > >Bed liner is ah.......bed liner.
> > >It's not designed to suppress noise. It's designed to protect the bed from
> > >nicks and scratches.
> > >From what I've seen Duplicolor bed liner is only a slightly thick paint.
> > >Nowhere thick enough to change the resonate frequency of the sheet metal.
> > >
> > >If you want noise suppression look for something designed to do that.
> > >You might also try www.mcmaster.com
> > >
> > >From: <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:54 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ouch! That much?
> > >> google dynacolors truck bed liner. I figure it might be worth it for 50$
> > >> for a gallon. At least it will be water proofed :)
> > >>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: Geordy Rostad [mailto:geordy@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 12:45 PM
> >
> > >>>To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'David Utley', ''Mark F.''
> > >>>Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> > >>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >>>
> > >>>Are you talking about the truck bed liner in a spray can or something
> > >>>else?
> > >>>The stuff in the spray can isn't thick and won't block any noise at all.
> > >>>(Ask me how I know that). If you have the car all apart anyways, there is
> > >>>no excuse not to dynamat the crap out of it. It will sound like a Mercedes
> > >>>inside when you are done. It's expensive but you should be able to overdo
> > >>>the car for $200-$300.
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>To: "David Utley" <fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx>; "'Mark F.'"
> > >>><mk1mark@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > >>><julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>Cc: "'A Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:04 AM
> > >>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thanks all. That was good info.
> > >>>> Vic's really noisy inside the car, out side is ok, but WOOF. tromp on it
> > >>>> and you cant hear a thing.
> > >>>> The floors will be done with truck bed liner from duplicolor, I was
> > >>>> thinking that while the guts were out of the doors, it would be a good
> > >>>> time for a bit of that stuff in there as well.
> > >>>> The foam I'd use in the rear Passsarea behind the covers and near the
> > >>>> trunk.
> > >>>> If any one has a link to the type of padding the MKI uses as underlay
> > >>>> I'd
> > >>>> love to see it.
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx]
> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 11:58 PM
> > >>>>>To: ''Mark F.'', julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> > >>>>>Subject: RE: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>From: Mark F. [mailto:mk1mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:34 AM
> > >>>>>To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>Cc: A Org, Scirocco
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>On Nov 8, 2007 10:08 AM, <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>>> I remember a long time ago a discussion of using the expanding foam to
> > >>>>>fill the voids in a car to reduce sound and heat.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any body remember this?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Utley was looking into this, but I don't think he followed through.
> > >>>>>David, do you still have the info? I was considering using it on my
> > >>>>>75...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>If it's a closed cell foam (won't absorb water), and has an adhesive
> > >>>>>property (seals completely against 'walls'), I don't think water
> > >>>>>should be an issue...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Later,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Mark.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Here are two threads on Vortex about it, the bottom one has a bit more
> > >>>>>info.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1681937
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1101373
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I have not followed-through, but need to look into it more. Pulled the
> > >>>>>dash
> > >>>>>out of the pickup, goddamn that thing is noisy. I need to do something
> > >>>>>more
> > >>>>>than just dynamat, or it's cheaper sibling, b-quiet.com.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>As Mark mentioned, water won't be an issue if you used closed-cell foam,
> > >>>>>as
> > >>>>>in what they use in making boats. The only way water would get in there
> > >>>>>then would be if you regularly forded a body of water.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>As a precaution, do NOT use the foam in a can. It is NOT closed cell,
> > >>>>>and
> > >>>>>it WILL cause your car to rust. Someone did not heed my warning, and
> > >>>>>their
> > >>>>>truck is now full of rusted dirt...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I would love to treat the truck, I have two cavities in mind. The one
> > >>>>>directly behind the dash, and the other at the drivers/passengers feet.
> > >>>>>However, money is as tight as it has been since I have joined the list,
> > >>>>>so
> > >>>>>I
> > >>>>>am not sure when I can act as guinea pig. :(
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> >
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> > >>>>
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Mike
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