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Use of foam as insulator?

Subject: Use of foam as insulator?
From: smithma7 at gmail.com (Mike Smith)
Date: Fri Nov 9 20:43:17 2007
In-reply-to: <W600552924689151194661172@webmail16>
References: <W600552924689151194661172@webmail16>
I'd like to spray Red's bottom with whatever is on the unshiny side of
Bib. Or some other heavy-duty truck-bed-liner type stuff. Not for
sound deadening, but just for protection.

Damn it, just realized if I get another VW, it has to be a 3 letter name!

On Nov 9, 2007 9:19 PM,  <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ok I checked EBAY and found some stuff. I figure 50 SFt should do the under carpet area.
> Money is a bit of a problem as I still have several hundred in paint, rubber and headliner.
> I should have costed this out a LOT better :)
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 05:34 PM
> >To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> >Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> >
> >Bed liner is ah.......bed liner.
> >It's not designed to suppress noise. It's designed to protect the bed from
> >nicks and scratches.
> >From what I've seen Duplicolor bed liner is only a slightly thick paint.
> >Nowhere thick enough to change the resonate frequency of the sheet metal.
> >
> >If you want noise suppression look for something designed to do that.
> >You might also try www.mcmaster.com
> >
> >From: <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:54 PM
> >Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> >
> >
> >> Ouch! That much?
> >> google dynacolors truck bed liner. I figure it might be worth it for 50$
> >> for a gallon. At least it will be water proofed :)
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Geordy Rostad [mailto:geordy@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 12:45 PM
>
> >>>To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'David Utley', ''Mark F.''
> >>>Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> >>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> >>>
> >>>Are you talking about the truck bed liner in a spray can or something
> >>>else?
> >>>The stuff in the spray can isn't thick and won't block any noise at all.
> >>>(Ask me how I know that). If you have the car all apart anyways, there is
> >>>no excuse not to dynamat the crap out of it. It will sound like a Mercedes
> >>>inside when you are done. It's expensive but you should be able to overdo
> >>>the car for $200-$300.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: "David Utley" <fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx>; "'Mark F.'"
> >>><mk1mark@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >>><julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Cc: "'A Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:04 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks all. That was good info.
> >>>> Vic's really noisy inside the car, out side is ok, but WOOF. tromp on it
> >>>> and you cant hear a thing.
> >>>> The floors will be done with truck bed liner from duplicolor, I was
> >>>> thinking that while the guts were out of the doors, it would be a good
> >>>> time for a bit of that stuff in there as well.
> >>>> The foam I'd use in the rear Passsarea behind the covers and near the
> >>>> trunk.
> >>>> If any one has a link to the type of padding the MKI uses as underlay
> >>>> I'd
> >>>> love to see it.
> >>>>
>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx]
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 11:58 PM
> >>>>>To: ''Mark F.'', julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>Cc: ''A Org, Scirocco''
> >>>>>Subject: RE: Use of foam as insulator?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: Mark F. [mailto:mk1mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:34 AM
> >>>>>To: julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>Cc: A Org, Scirocco
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Use of foam as insulator?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Nov 8, 2007 10:08 AM, <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>> I remember a long time ago a discussion of using the expanding foam to
> >>>>>fill the voids in a car to reduce sound and heat.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any body remember this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Utley was looking into this, but I don't think he followed through.
> >>>>>David, do you still have the info? I was considering using it on my
> >>>>>75...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If it's a closed cell foam (won't absorb water), and has an adhesive
> >>>>>property (seals completely against 'walls'), I don't think water
> >>>>>should be an issue...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Later,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mark.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here are two threads on Vortex about it, the bottom one has a bit more
> >>>>>info.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1681937
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1101373
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have not followed-through, but need to look into it more. Pulled the
> >>>>>dash
> >>>>>out of the pickup, goddamn that thing is noisy. I need to do something
> >>>>>more
> >>>>>than just dynamat, or it's cheaper sibling, b-quiet.com.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As Mark mentioned, water won't be an issue if you used closed-cell foam,
> >>>>>as
> >>>>>in what they use in making boats. The only way water would get in there
> >>>>>then would be if you regularly forded a body of water.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As a precaution, do NOT use the foam in a can. It is NOT closed cell,
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>it WILL cause your car to rust. Someone did not heed my warning, and
> >>>>>their
> >>>>>truck is now full of rusted dirt...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would love to treat the truck, I have two cavities in mind. The one
> >>>>>directly behind the dash, and the other at the drivers/passengers feet.
> >>>>>However, money is as tight as it has been since I have joined the list,
> >>>>>so
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>am not sure when I can act as guinea pig. :(
> >>>>>
> >>>>>David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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Mike
'86 Tred 16v: Red 5
'05 Iblue GTI 1.8T: Bib
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