Tranny grenade - thanks VW

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"Special tools:"

http://koabi.lazyslacker.com/photos/IMG_1809.JPG
3/8" IPS pipe nipple modified by the dremmel knock off.  This is used to get
the 5th gear fork off the 5th gear adjustment tube.  Try NOT to get a chrome
plated brass one (unless the stupid store has no other) or it gets a bit ...
flaky...

http://koabi.lazyslacker.com/photos/IMG_1811.JPG
3/4" (i think) lock nut.  A coupling nut would be better, but for some
reason the lock nuts had a slightly smaller body whereas the normal nuts
wouldnt fit.  This is used for the 27mm allen selector cover (that's not
where the cover goes its just laying on the transmission) and you just put a
27mm socket on the other end.

I am not sure what other tools need to be made - I haven't got past the 5th
gear area yet...

On 6/21/07, Peter <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Not necessarily...
>
> My caged '83 Rabbit GTI gave no warning, and suddenly gear oil started
> dumping into the clutch, going down Roosevelt Blvd in Philly. My friend's
> house was right down the street, so I parked it there, and came back with
> another trans. I cleaned up the Sachs kit, and exchanged it at Autozone.
> ;)
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rave Racer 77 [mailto:raveracer77@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:00 PM
> To: Joe Mair; Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Tranny grenade - thanks VW
>
> I posted on your 'Tex thread  but I'll cross post here.
>
> Wow, yah, that's crappy, sorry about your loss joe. For whoever asked if
> this was the Self Machining Syndrome or SMS, this is not it. SMS is much
> slower and you'll have oil spots for a day or two before total failure.
> Google it, it's interesting. This is different. I've blown up three "2Y's"
> and the first one looked just like yours. All 16V's came with either codes
> 2Y or AGB. Someone suggested this was an opportunity and I agree. Find a
> code you like and either have it built or buy a used one from a reputable
> dealer. Two texers who do these builds are "Cheapass" Ron Peiper and
> BrokeVW. Both seem to be very modest about themselves and seem to have all
> the neat tools required.
> Three things to remember while shopping for your replacement:
> 1. There are two different clutch spline sizes. Small was in the 8V and
> Deisels, large was in the 16V.
> 2. There were two different Drive shaft sizes, 90mm in the 8V's and some
> Deisels and 100mm in the 16V's and some Deisels.
> 3. MK1 Chassis had a different shift linkage and are missing three bolt
> holes on the back and top of the Diff that are REQUIRED for MK2's,
> therefore, MK2 trannies will work in MK1's, but most MK1 trannies will not
> work in MK2's. Roughly where the #30, #2, #9 are pointing on this diagram:
> http://www.longenterprises.com...s.htm
> I don't remember what code went in my 89 GTX but as it turned out once the
> swap was done the first four ratios seemed closer together and fifth was
> so
> long that I ran out of torque before I could get to redline but still
> managed 210kph (135mph). Basically in the city it was a rocket but I had
> to
> wind out 4th to get to 5th on the Highway. Highway fuel mileage was a huge
> bonus. I now have an ACH waiting to go in my 91 GLI. I was originally
> shopping for AOP, AGS then narrowed my search down to ACH and ATH. If you
> find ATH in North America you've struck gold. 4th on the ATH is the same
> ratio as 5th on the 2Y. The biggest difference between ATH and ACH is that
> ATH has the smaller final drive gear and will push you to a higher speed.
> There is one shop that imports crated parts from the fatherland with ATH's
> once in a while but I have no idea and can not vouch for their condition.
> I
> think that shop was German Auto Parts (GAP) but I'm not possitive and
> definitely have no affiliation.
>
> Here are my Tranny links for codes and a neato prog to test different
> codes
> and see where you'd like your speeds and revs to sit.
>
> Scirocco.org's Gear Up:
> http://www.scirocco.org/gears/
>
> Broke VW:
> http://www.brokevw.com/020ratios.html
>
> Fast Fruit:
> http://ffp-motorsport.com/tuning/vw_trans.php
>
> Techtonics:
> http://www.techtonicstuning.com/trannyratios.asp
>
> Pictures:
> http://www.longenterprises.com...t.htm
>
> Good luck and feel free to hit me up for more info if you have any Q's
>
> P.S. This is a good time to change motor mounts and clutch and flywheel.
> Also, for Scirocco's Black Forest makes a bar that supports the front
> motor
> mount. If you start to run big power you might think about getting one.
> Scirocco's with alot of power have been known to rip the metal right off
> the
> frames without support.
>
>
>       Rave Racer
> Current:
> '91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
> '86 Fox
> 2 GTI parts cars
>
> Gone:
> '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
> '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
> '72 Triumph GT6
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
> http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
> ___________________________________________
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Mair" <jmair@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:25
> Subject: Tranny grenade - thanks VW
>
>
> So, as is seemingly inevitable with a 20 year old VW transmission, my
> differential rivets bit the big one today:
>
> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3299308
>
> As someone on the Vortex has said, I need to look at this as a
> mechanical "opportunity."  Thankfully, I was moving somewhat slowly, and
> it seems like I didn't eat the whole trans.  I'll know more when it gets
> taken apart.  Now I just need to source some new parts and the diff bolt
> kit.  Much as I want a limited slip diff, given the fact that I've spent
> so much on this car this year, an additional $900 over the cost of
> rebuilding the trans just isn't worth it to me, not with a stock engine
> set up for merely "spirited" driving.  However, I might do the Peloquin
> shims at about 10% of the cost.
>
> So, if anyone has any extra 16V trans parts lying around, let me know.
> I think I'll drop in a taller 5th while I'm at it, and Dan suggested a
> 3.94 final drive as well.
>
> I mean, I'm disappointed, but what're gonna do?
>
> Joe
>
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