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Power steering fluid vs. ATF
- Subject: Power steering fluid vs. ATF
- From: jlagnese at massed.net (jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx)
- Date: Wed Jul 18 19:02:38 2007
Chris at Force 5 is a reasonably priced source for
Pentosin.
John
http://www.force5auto.com/
---- Original message ----
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:37:13 -0500
From: "Janzen, Lawrence" <lwjanzen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Power steering fluid vs. ATF
To: "David Utley" <fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx>,
<scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Well, all politics aside... David was the only
person to response to my
>question. Spewey's comments forced me to do some
research. Here are my
>findings I thought I would share as a newbie. You
may all know this
>information, but I thought I would pass it on,
because no one else
>shared this information.
>
>ETKA says to use the G 002 000 fluid. Pentosin is
the manufacturer for
>the factory fluid part number G 002 000. Pentosin
makes two versions
>of this fluid. A quick look at the Pentosin CHF
7.1 container (white
>coloured metal container with green cap) for
early model vehicles (89 or
>older), and at the Pentosin CHF 11S, (green
coloured metal container
>with red cap) for late model vehicles. Pentosin
provided the following
>information.
>
>Pentosin CHF 7.1
>Hydraulic system mineral oil for level control
systems, hydro pneumatic
>suspension, shock absorber, power steering. Range
of operation, -40C to
>+100C, especially recommended for countries of
cold climate. Close
>container after use. Very Important: Pentosin CHF
7.1 should not be
>mixed with Pentosin CHF 11S or any other
hydraulic oil BMW Teile Nr: 81
>22 9 407 549 Green Color fluid
>
>Pentosin CHF 11S
>Synthetic Oil for central hydraulic systems,
level control, hydro
>pneumatic suspension, shock absorber, power
steering. Range of
>operation: -40C to +130C, especially recommended
for countries of cold
>climate. Close container after use. Very
Important: Pentosin CHF 11S
>should not be mixed with Pentosin CHF 7.1 or any
other hydraulic oil.
>BMW Teile Nr: 81 22 9 407 758 USA BMW Teile Nr:
82 11 1 468 041 Porsche
>Teilenummer: 000.043.203.33 Olive Color fluid
(Olive color, is defined
>as "yellow green")
>
>I found article after article of people who have
tried ATF or power
>steering fluid and IT DOES NOT WORK. Everyone
always pointed back to
>the G 002 000 fluid. Some VW authorities suggest
you don't change your
>hydraulic fluid. This is not logical. The
hydraulic steering pump is
>just one of the components having many moving
parts. Internal components
>inside the pump and steering rack and pinion wear
and mesh with one
>another and create finite metallic particles
which contaminate the
>hydraulic fluid. It seems only logical to perform
hydraulic fluid
>service as a part of your preventive maintenance
schedule and change the
>hydraulic fluid. It was recommended to change
your hydraulic fluid as a
>first step in trying to solve hydraulic related
problems such as a noisy
>steering pump or intermitted loss of power
assisted steering. The
>hydraulic fluid system should be flushed at your
timing belt intervals.
>Vehicles operating in hot climates or that are
subjected to driving in
>heavy city traffic should have their hydraulic
fluid changed every
>30,000 miles. It's good preventive maintenance,
inexpensive and logical
>for you to change your hydraulic fluid. It is
much cheaper than
>replacing a steering pump or steering rack and
pinion.
>
>As for links for this information...
>
>http://www.blauparts.com/vw/vw_fluid/vw_hydraulic_fluid.shtml
>
>http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/trouble_shooting/susp.html
>
>http://www.20v.org/pentosin.htm
>
>Sorry for the long response to my own question. I
am planning on using
>Pentosin CHF 7.1 in my power steering in my '87
Scirocco 16V...unless
>someone tells me different.
>
>
>Larry
>'87 Scirocco 16V
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:16 PM
>To: Janzen, Lawrence; scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Power steering fluid vs. ATF
>
>IIRC, those cars call for Dexron ATF is what you
were supposed to use,
>but looking at ETKA says to use the G 002 000
fluid, the shizzle that
>Audi 5Ks use in their hydraulics. Perhaps this is
why every PS VW I
>have driven has been non-funtional?
>
>I would go with the special fluid (made by
Pentosin), but I would also
>flush the system first.
>
>G/L
>
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Janzen, Lawrence
[mailto:lwjanzen@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:56 AM
>To: scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Power steering fluid vs. ATF
>
>Well after ten years, my '87 Scirocco is back on
the road!! Oh... What
>a feeling! :) My wife said I was like a little
kid on Christmas
>morning!! Anyway, I have changed all the fluids
except for the power
>steering fluid. The RB manual recommends Dexron
or Dexron II ATF fluid.
>
>My question is...what is the difference between
ATF and power steering
>fluid? I am planning on putting in new Dexron III
ATF unless someone
>recommends something better.
>
>Thanks,
>Larry
>'87 Scirocco 16V
>
>
>
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