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Bridge Collapse



Ah, a true liberal. No one who disagrees can be anything but stupid, evil, 
and any other number of insulting traits.
John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Krupke" <kkrup62@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <scirocco16vr32@xxxxxxxxx>; <spewey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Bridge Collapse


> Actually, speaking as a long term liberal (thought Nixon was an arrogant 
> paranoid moron, Reagan was a narcoleptic cheerleader moron, Bush Sr. a 
> semi- illiterate moron, and now Bush Jr., who is at best merely a moron 
> squared, along with corrupt and incompetant)...uh, anyway; I've never had 
> a problem with Nukes.
>    Relatively cheap, clean, and convenient (like sex oughta be, some of 
> the time).
>    But I know what you mean about the fringe end treehuggers; same 
> mentality that thinks if everyone buys an electric car pollution will 
> magically disappear... "hey moron, where do you think the juice in the 
> wall socket comes from?" Coal burning plant, most likely.
>
>    Best treehugger story I've ever heard, this from a few years ago: Some 
> 'hugger was protesting logging in the Pacific Northwest, went out to a 
> nearby Redwood forest with his sign.
>    While wandering through the woods, a dead branch broke off one of the 
> Redwoods and landed on this guy. Redwoods are kinda big... branch more or 
> less schmussed him dead.
>    Poetic comedy, I think... proof perhaps that if there is a God, s/he/it 
> has a warped sense of humor.
>    Ok, you're right, make that "further proof"; on top of the platypus, 
> penguin, dodo, Spanish Inquisition, Tammy Faye Bakker, fanatic Muslims, 
> etc.
>
> Karl
>
>
>>From: "Chris Bennett" <scirocco16vr32@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: Spewey <spewey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>CC: scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: Bridge Collapse
>>Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:14:45 -0400
>>
>>Well if the goddamn treehuggin' liberals didn't claim nukes make baby
>>Jesus cry--they could test the metal structure via radiological means.
>>  That's how they do critical weld inspections in the shipyard.
>>
>>I am kidding about the liberals... but not the treehuggers.  LOL
>>
>>On 8/7/07, Spewey <spewey@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Jesus H, people.  As someone who has had the term "Metallurgical" in
>> > their professional title before, I wanted to take a minute to have a
>> > look at what a crap job bridge inspection is.  All over the news are
>> > reports of "fatigue," "structurally deficient" and "50/120" as if the
>> > news pundits or the populace has any idea what that stuff means.  And
>> > then they go and attack them because they screwed up.  Colossal
>> > shittiness.
>> >
>> > We won't know for a long time who screwed up.  And I know there are 
>> > some
>> > people here who do Failure Analysis or FMEA on car parts who know how
>> > easy it is to look at a computer screen or even peer into a microscope
>> > to investigate corrosion or work hardening but the men and women who
>> > hang off bridges have a difficult job:  they can't take a bridge beam
>> > back to the lab.  They have to sign off on it in situ.
>> >
>> > FDNY, blah blah, first responder, Navy divers, schoolbus full of
>> > precious loinfruit...once you're done feeling all red white and blue,
>> > please take a second to think about the poor inspectors before you 
>> > throw
>> > a spark plug at them for making you late.
>> >
>> >  From the news:
>> >
>> > "It's nuts," said a second MnDOT expert who has inspected the bridge.
>> > "The first thing you notice is that the traffic is not giving you a
>> > break. And in MnDOT there is a real reluctance to close a lane of
>> > traffic because then you're impeding flow. Then there's the height over
>> > the water, the pigeons, bats and spiders. If you're a little squirrelly
>> > about those things, you shouldn't be in the business. It's nasty
>> > business down there."
>> >
>> > http://www.startribune.com/10204/story/1347900.html
>> >
>> > Some Minnesota Department of Transportation employees have found
>> > themselves the target of "very...serious threats by email and phone
>>calls"
>> >
>> > http://www.startribune.com/10204/story/1347187.html
>> >
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