TDI scirocco?

[verboten at michiganvw.org (Jason)]

a DB cable TDI swap would be from an A3 jetta or a B4 passat
those would be easiest, and still net awesome fuel economy

the problem is finding a donor car that doesnt cost at LEAST $3000

i looked into it for my 1990 jetta coupe, and i was ready to roll with a
$2500 swap, BUT the yard owner wouldnt give me the car, buit siad if i
needed anything i could come back.
prob was the yard was 8 hours away.

there is also a mechanical TDI swap which uses the 1.9 mechanical pump, it
is less efficient, but still muhc more powerful than the IDI engines

On 5/25/06, Drew Mac <type53@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/25/06, Cory Langford <Cory_Langford@bcit.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know a while ago a couple lister were going to attempt it.  Did anyone
> > manage to get a competed conversion?
>
>
>
> Eric S. has had a Mk1 Scirocco TDI conversion project on the books for
> quite
> some time, I don't know what the status of it is, however he may chime in.
> He does have a "Mk3" TDI Scirocco (Corrado) which he acquired a few years
> back - I think he still has it according to his .sig
>
> I'm aware of a few A1- chassis TDI swaps, can't think of a Scirocco one
> though.
>
>
> I have not done any research on the topic, but I figured if it was done
> > before this would be the best place to get info.
>
>
>
> Maybe, although there are some diesel specific forums out there where
> oilburners tend to congregate as well.
>
>
> So a few questions to start off with:
> >
> > 1.  Are the TDI's drive by wire arrangement or do they have the
> mechanical
> > TB?  IE: when I go looking for an engine do I need more than simply the
> > engine harness and wiring, do  I need to grab the pedal assem and all
> > electronics that go with it?
>
>
> Factory VW TDIs are DBW, and disels don't have throttle bodies (later
> model
> TDIs have anti-shudder valves, but they're not throttles...)   If you are
> planning a TDI swap into an A1 chassis, your best bet is to either a)
> secure
> all parts needed for the swap from a yard that specializes in sourcing
> parts
> for swaps, or b) buy a wrecked car which has all the parts you need
> intact.
>
>
> > 2.  Do I need to swap out the fuel distrib for the Diesel or can I reuse
> > the rocs current fuel delivery system (in tank pump, main pump and fuel
> > accum.)?
>
>
> The diesel injection pump incorporates a lift pump (low pressure to supply
> the pump with fuel) and a high pressure pump that generates injection
> pressures up to 19,000 psi.  You can use your existing tank, and with some
> rerouting, the fuel lines.  Other components of the fuel system will be
> discarded.
>
>
> 3.  Did VW finally chance the block design with the TDI engine, or do they
> > still have the bolt holes to mount up A1 motor mounts?
>
>
>
> The A4 TDIs are a good swap candidate as they use a passenger's side mount
> rather than a rear mount.  The 1.9 TDI is a "tall block" like the ABA.
>
>
> 4.  If anyone did the conversion, what did you use for a tranny?  Will an
> > 020 bolt up and is there any issues with torque etc?
>
>
>
> The A1 conversions I have seen included the cableshift transmission.   It
> is
> possible to use a (I believe) G60 flywheel and an 020 gearbox.
>
> One of the biggest challenges of this swap will be wiring (A4 swaps must
> include the cluster with immobilizer)   Having access to a donor vehicle
> or
> a yard that has experience with swaps and is willing to sell you
> everything
> that you need will be critical to it's success.  It will be expensive and
> time consuming, but the end result, even with the TDI engine in stock
> form,
> will be reliable and fun.   Tuning options for the TDI include chips,
> power
> boxes and inkector upgrades, followed by turbo and intercooler upgrades,
> with clutch upgrades being required somewhere along the way.
>
>
> A simpler (and potentially as satisfying) swap would be a 1.9 IDI engine,
> which although not as efficient has similar power potential for less cost
> and effort (the IDI engine is completely mechanical, making wiring a
> trvial
> exercise.)
>
> Drew
>
>
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