I want one...

[fahrvergnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

julie@menloparkrandd.com wrote:
>
> I agree. It is expencive to make hydrogen, but even more so the stupid 
> idea of running ethanol from soy/corn.
>
> The math for the ethanol is remarkable. How many miles does an average 
> car get from one acre of soy/corn? How much energy does it take to 
> generate that fuel.
>

Exactly!  Esp. since the number of people is growing, and there is still 
hunger...

David
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@verizon.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 08:08 AM
> >To: desinor@sympatico.ca, 'David Utley'
> >Cc: 'Org, Scirocco'
> >Subject: Re: I want one...
> >
> >Canada is indeed fortunate that the majority of its energy needs are 
> met by hydroelectricity. Over 50% which is a pretty amazing number.
> >Here in the States the percentage is much smaller, even less than 
> nuclear, under 10%.
> >I suspect that Canada is the exception as far as the percentage of 
> it's renewable energy usage.
> >
> >In any event it doesn't invalidate David's comment that it takes 
> energy to produce hydrogen in a form that can be used in an internal 
> combustion engine.
> >So, before we all go googoo over hydrogen and how clean it burns, 
> blah, blah, blah....let's look at the entire picture of the energy 
> required to produce it (on a global basis).
> >my <.02
> >Dan
> >
> >From: "Jean-Claude Desinor" <desinor@sympatico.ca>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:20 AM
> >
> >
> > You do not need to burn coal to get electricity ...
> > Here we get it by turning turbines with water.
> >
> >Jean-Claude
> >
> >David Utley a ?crit :
> >> I have always wondered why manufacturers looked at burning 
> Hydrogen, if
> >> for no other reason that Hydrogen is not naturally occurring. The only
> >> way to get it is to electrify water, which means burning more coal...
> >>
> >> Neat idea for the environment, just a bad idea for the environment....
> >>
> >> David'
> >>
> >>
> >> PS-- Anyone smarter than me is encouraged to take me to school...
> >>
> >> julie@menloparkrandd.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> What a blast:
> >>> 
> http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyid=2006-03-14T184722Z_01_L14736637_RTRUKOC_0_US-AUTOS-BMW-HYDROGEN.xml 
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