[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Can we design and build a bio-diesel electric hybrid scirocco?
I agree. Sure, I like the idea and engineering of coming up with a
bio-electric hybrid Scirocco, and it would probably get a lot of attention
since hybrids are all the big hype now, but I'm a firm believer in
straight diesel technology, the 3L lupo a great example of that. Beats
every hybrid on the market in fuel economy and no stupid batteries to
every worry about replacing. (ask those early Honda insight owners about
those!!) Also why I'm going TDI for my Rocco, someday I'd like to have my
own Biodiesel rig and run B20 or B50 at least- and at the same time like
to have it fast enough to compete in auto-x/rally-x/road course stuff. I
figure 60 mpg would be obtainable if I drove it conservatively. (that's
the hard part!)
That being said, I still think a diesel-electric hybrid would be
entertaining concept in a Scirocco. I also feel that with the right
trimming of weight it could still be nimble enough to still be called a
Scirocco.
Brendan
--- Brian Haygood <haygood@myway.com> wrote:
>
> This is a great idea! Now all we need some idiots who are too bad at
> math to realize the money you save on gas would never make it worth all
> the cost of building such a thing, and we might have some buyers for
> it!! Heck - it worked for Toyota, but then aren't they still losing
> money on the Prius's?
>
>
>
> Aerodynamics? We are talking about a scirocco here, aren't we?
>
>
>
> Any real advantage to a parallel setup? The extra weight of getting
> driveshafts to the rear wheels, suspension changes, motor mounts, etc.
> would be a big problem I would think. Also, you would lose trunk space
> for the batteries. Besides, with the 3 cylinder setup there would be
> plenty of room up front for the right electric motor.
>
>
>
> ...or you can consider the fact that Chuck Blue's MK1 already gets 39mpg
> with an ABA turbo in it and start wondering why a Prius only gets around
> 60. If you grant Chuck the fact that he has decent tires, MK1
> aerodynamics, and can outrun anything he wants to, the hybrid magic
> really loses its appeal. The realization that hybrid's are more of a
> sales gimmick than useful technology can't be far behind in your minds!.
> Now the guy who is building prototype Hummers for the military that run
> on water. THAT is something worth pursuing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri 06/23, Behrle Hubbuch < behrleiii@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> From: Behrle Hubbuch [mailto: behrleiii@yahoo.com]
>
> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Subject: Re: Can we design and build a bio-diesel electric hybrid
> scirocco?
>
>
>
> Brendan Doyle <lord_verminaard@yahoo.com> wrote: Would be an
> interesting project. The VW 1.2L TDI 3-banger would be a good<br>engine
> for this purpose. That engine in the 3L Lupo has set fuel
> economy<br>records all over the place, including being the first
> european car to<br>travel 100 km (62 miles) on 3 liters (.79 gallons) of
> fuel. I think I<br>read somewhere that it was the first car to break 100
> mpg during normal<br>road travel at posted speed limits as well. Sure,
> it's NOT a hybrid, but<br>the engine is small enough and powerful enough
> (61 hp 103 ft-lbs) that it<br>might be a good place to start with a
> bio-electric hybrid.<br><br>Brendan<br><br>That sounds great! I hadn't
> heard of the 3-cyl TDI powerplant until now. Yeah one of those up
> front, an adequate electric powerplant in back, a battery pack that's
> modern and light instead of a bunch of HEAVY old style lead acid
> batteries. We'll have to think about braking and suspension as well as
> weight distribution and
> power management then it's on to aerodynamics, aesthetics and comfort.
> We can certaily design all this on paper/computer then build it later.
> We could have a high milege, low emission set up that could be easily
> placed into most A1 and maybe even A2 VW models. <br> Heck it might
> even have some pep.<br><br> <br>
>
Behrle<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Scirocco-l
> mailing
>
list<br>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<br>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l<br>
>
> _______________________________________________
> No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.
> Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Scirocco-l mailing list
> Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l
>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com