my mk1 won't start

[peter at thescirocco.com (Peter)]

How much power do you have at the solenoid, when you try to start it?

Check the solenoid wire connection right by the firewall... 
It's a spade terminal connection, that usually corrodes, it can be cut out
of the way, and connected back together with a butt connector. Just follow
the wire from the solenoid, and you'll see what I'm talking about. 
It could also be the ignition switch, or starter... 


Peter-302.832.8989
http://thescirocco.com/

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:34 PM
To: julie@menloparkrandd.com
Cc: Scirocco List
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: my mk1 won't start

I plan on doing that first since I'm really hoping that's all it is. I'll
probably just clean and crimp all the connections to the starter and
solenoid to be sure I didn't miss anything.

To address your suggestions in case that doesn't work though.
I'll check voltages at all the wires running to the solenoid and the
starter. I'm assuming the fat one direct to the starter from the pos battery
terminal should be 12V (obviously) and the others should be what? The
Bentley says 7V for terminal 50, I'm assuming that's the quick connect on
the solenoid. If cleaning the connections doesn't work I'll check the
voltages and report back.
Also, is
this<http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Scirocco/EngineElectrical/197
/1>the
permanent magnet starter you're reccommending? I'm sure it's nice, but for
$142.22+shipping I'll definately try and rule out wiring first ;)

I'm going to be away for the rest of the weekend and can't keep working on
the car, but at least I know a couple ways to get it started and get me to
work on Monday. I'll clean things up and check voltages if necessary then
and report back. Thanks for all the help!
Nate

On 7/6/06, julie@menloparkrandd.com <julie@menloparkrandd.com> wrote:
>
> Dan wrote the blow:
>
> Ohh, ohhh. Try this. I've done it my self the night before the trip to 
> Cincy.
>
>
> >To be just a little more clear there is a ~1/8" diameter red wire 
> >that
> has a
> >quick connnect spade lug on the end of the starter solenoid. This is 
> >the wire that goes to the starter position of the ignition switch. 
> >i.e. it provides the current to pull in the solenoid and power the
starter motor.
> >Pull the quick connect off of the solenoid, crimp it just a bit with 
> >a
> pair
> >of pliers and reinstall on the solenoid.
> >Worked for me 7 years ago.
> >Dan
> >
> >From: <julie@menloparkrandd.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:31 PM
> >Subject: Re: my mk1 won't start
> >
> >
> >> There is a heavy gauge wire on a slip on spade. Short this to the 
> >> cable
> of
> >> the battery connector.
> >> Umm. Make sure the tranny is in neutral ok?
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
> >>>Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2006 06:47 PM
> >>>To: 'Scirocco List'
> >>>Subject: my mk1 won't start
> >>>
> >>>Help!
> >>>My car won't start under its own power. When I turn the key to the
> start
> >>>position, all the lights come on nice and bright and the voltmeter
> reads
> >>>12V, nothing else happens. No clicks, no starter spinning, nothing. 
> >>>I
> got
> >>>it
> >>>to start at work by getting a couple guys to push my and then 
> >>>dumping
> the
> >>>clutch. It ran fine after that, but as soon as I shut it off at my 
> >>>apartment the same thing happened when I tried to start it again.
> >>>
> >>>I did some searching in my repair manuals, and it looks like it's
> either
> >>>the
> >>>solenoid, the ignition switch, or the wiring between the two. I'm
> supposed
> >>>to bridge starter terminals 30 and 50, but I'm not sure where 
> >>>exactly those are.
> >>>
> >>>Any other ideas for things to check if this doesn't work are also
> welcome.
> >>>TIA
> >>>Nate
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