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Help - Clutch release arm not returning - Now the Trans is out

Subject: Help - Clutch release arm not returning - Now the Trans is out
From: amalventano1 at tds.net (Allyn)
Date: Mon Sep 5 18:28:42 2005
In-reply-to: <6155f0910509051548718d0226@mail.gmail.com>

Looks perfect.

Al

 

 

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From: Don Walter [mailto:dswalterwi@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 6:49 PM
To: Allyn
Cc: Anson Clement; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: Help - Clutch release arm not returning - Now the Trans is out

 

I uploaded pictures of the pushrod in both positions

On 9/5/05, Don Walter <dswalterwi@gmail.com> wrote: 

It is not a piece of metal and the rivet head is intact.  IT is rubbery and
looks like the top half of an eraser head from a pencil. 

 

On 9/5/05, Allyn <amalventano1@tds.net> wrote: 

I wonder how that rivet head came off and worked its way into the pressure
plate assembly... If it was wedged in with the disc at all it could have 
caused the pedal to not release fully (as the clutch itself could not engage
fully).
I would check all fingers from the pressure plate, ensuring they all sit
even (i.e. the metal piece did not cause any of them to bend). 
A quick check regarding the clutch pushrod is easily done with the reanny
off of the car - with the arm fully up, the pushrod should extend ~1/4" from
the end of the input shaft. Actuating the arm should smoothly extend the 
pushrod slightly more than 1/2".
HTH
Al


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces+amalventano1= tds.net@scirocco.org
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<mailto:scirocco-l-bounces+amalventano1=tds.net@scirocco.org> ] On Behalf Of
> Don Walter
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:35 PM
> To: Anson Clement 
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Help - Clutch release arm not returning - Now the Trans is out
>
> Okay so I pulled the green cover and the arm was moving and I pried on it 
> to
> make sure it wasn't broke. It seemed rigid enough but the piston that it 
> is
> supposed to push on was not returning back out with the arm motion. It was
> just fully depressed so we pulled the transmission. 
>  We expected to find a hole in the clutch retaining plate. With the 
> transmission out the retaining plate looked fine with a small amount of
> wear. IF I push on the rod and work the lever it moves in and out like it 
> should. The only odd thing we found was what appeared to be half of an 
> eraser head stuck on the clutch plate. I measured the distances of
> critical
> dimensions and compared them to an old SACHS I have laying around. 
> Everything seemed to be fairly close. Would that eraser bit be enough to 
> keep the push rod from returning? What else would not be returning the
> pushrod back to its rest position??? I hate to put it all back together 
> and
> not have it work.
>  I have included some pictures if anyone can see anything. They do show 
> the
> foreign particle.
>
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>
>
>  On 9/4/05, Anson Clement <ansonivan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > One of two things... the clutch finger located just
> > under the green cap who's purpose in life is to press
> > on the throw-out bearing could have split.
> >
> > Second option, the throw-out rod could have gone right 
> > through the little throwout plate located against the 
> > pressure plate.
> >
> > The first option is the most common and simplest to
> > fix.
> >
> > Have fun. 
> >
> > Anson
> >
> > --- Don Walter < dswalterwi@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >
> > > After a quick trip to Madison and getting a new
> > > Clutch cable form Jim
> > > Jarrett and getting it installed with no problems I 
> > > am now finding that the 
> > > release arm is not returning on its own. It seems to
> > > have very little
> > > pressure when activating it by itself. It only
> > > returns about half way then 
> > > needs a little push to pop all the way down. It
> > > almost just flops up and
> > > down. Would this be a broken return spring accessed
> > > from the green metal
> > > cap? or something else. Where would I get a spring? 
> > > What else could it be. I
> > > did seem to notice before all this that the clutch
> > > felt very very light when 
> > > pushing on the pedal.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> > > 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> > > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> > > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
> > > 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> > > 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago) 
> > > 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
> > > 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
> > > 1969 Beetle (sold)
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> --
> Don Walter - Waukesha, WI 
> 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair) 
> 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
> 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
> 1969 Beetle (sold)
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Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939 )
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold) 
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold) 




-- 
Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold) 
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)

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- Help - Clutch release arm not returning - Now the Trans is out
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