Collapsing US bumpers: safe?

[fahrvegnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

>From your wording, I think we are on the same page...  Arent we?

Mid 84 and earlier=brackets, later= shocks...

David
> 
> From: "Scourge" <scourge@cogeco.ca>
> Date: 2005/07/15 Fri AM 12:17:44 EDT
> To: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>, 
> 	"Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>,  "GGehrke" <ggehrke@gmail.com>
> CC: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Subject: Re: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
> 
> Don't you mean it the other way around?? Weren't the shock type ones in
> earlier cars??  That said, my 84 was a full size spare, small gas tank,
> small wing, typical early 84. But had bracket type bumpers.
> 
> 
> -George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
> To: "Scourge" <scourge@cogeco.ca>; "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>;
> "GGehrke" <ggehrke@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
> 
> 
> > From what I can tell in ETKA, the bumpers go in time with the gas tank
> > changes.  Full size spare meant you had brackets, compact meant
> > shock-type...
> >
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-bounces+fahrvegnugen=cox.net@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces+fahrvegnugen=cox.net@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of
> > Scourge
> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:08 PM
> > To: Timbo; GGehrke
> > Cc: Scirocco list
> > Subject: Re: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
> >
> > My 84' that I scrapped only had the brackets, no shocks in the front or
> > rear. Maybe a Canadian thing??
> >
> > -George
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>
> > To: "GGehrke" <ggehrke@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
> >
> >
> > ALL US spec bumpers are designed to take a < 5mph impact and the car
> > will have no frame damage. The bumper may be
> > scraped/cracked/dented/destroyed - but the car is just fine.
> >
> > This aparantly only works on older sciroccos - something like up to 85
> > or 86 I think.
> >
> > Newer cars just have a solid bracket. Old cars have shocks with
> > hydraulic fluid in them. Drill a hole, WEAR EYE GOGGLES - I'm not
> > kidding - it will spray right at you. Wear a hat too!
> >
> > --Timbo
> >
> > On 7/13/05, GGehrke <ggehrke@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm thinking of collapsing my big ugly US bumpers, but I'm curious
> > > what sort of crash protection they actually do provide.  Does anyone
> > > know what the official spec is (i.e. were they designed to resist a
> > > 10mph hit or something to that effect) or what consequence there would
> > > be to having the shocks emptied?
> > > At this point I'm not terribly concerned with doing it for it's
> > > aesthetic value because the car's pretty rough looking anyways, but I
> > > have them off for powerwashing and repairing a bit of rust, so I'm
> > > thinking I might as well.  The car looks so good without any bumpers
> > > on it, too.  If it's genuinely unsafe I'd rather just keep them as is
> > > for now, though.
> > >
> > > Oh, and I just finished power washing the car.  Did a real bang up job
> > > on the paint. Flaked right off all over the place.  Now the car's
> > > literally about 6 different colours.  It was intentional, but ugh.
> > >
> > > Other recent projects:
> > > My headlights died and I couldnt find the problem (sockets fine,
> > > switch fine, fuse fine, etc etc) so I just wired them up with heavy
> > > gauge wire to toggle switches on the dash.
> > > New cable from battery to starter and ground strap to hopefully fix
> > > other electrical gremlins and starting problems.  It does actually
> > > seem to run much better!  It starts without me having to give it any
> > > gas and idles more smoothly.
> > > Painted my dash black to fix scuffs and petrified duct tape residue from
> > the PO.
> > > Seafoam!  Timbo was right, fun smokescreen!  This helped reveal, too,
> > > though, that my entire exhaust system is shot.  Smoke poured not only
> > > out the tailpipe but exited at various other locations down the whole
> > > length.
> > > Vacuum and febreeze the interior.
> > >
> > > Plus I helped my buddy cut his M3's exhaust in half, gut the cat and
> > > weld it back together.  That was pretty fun too :)
> > >
> > > -Grant-
> > >
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