Collapsing US bumpers: safe?

[scourge at cogeco.ca (Scourge)]

Don't you mean it the other way around?? Weren't the shock type ones in
earlier cars??  That said, my 84 was a full size spare, small gas tank,
small wing, typical early 84. But had bracket type bumpers.


-George
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
To: "Scourge" <scourge@cogeco.ca>; "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>;
"GGehrke" <ggehrke@gmail.com>
Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?


> From what I can tell in ETKA, the bumpers go in time with the gas tank
> changes.  Full size spare meant you had brackets, compact meant
> shock-type...
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces+fahrvegnugen=cox.net@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces+fahrvegnugen=cox.net@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of
> Scourge
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:08 PM
> To: Timbo; GGehrke
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> Subject: Re: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
>
> My 84' that I scrapped only had the brackets, no shocks in the front or
> rear. Maybe a Canadian thing??
>
> -George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>
> To: "GGehrke" <ggehrke@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Collapsing US bumpers: safe?
>
>
> ALL US spec bumpers are designed to take a < 5mph impact and the car
> will have no frame damage. The bumper may be
> scraped/cracked/dented/destroyed - but the car is just fine.
>
> This aparantly only works on older sciroccos - something like up to 85
> or 86 I think.
>
> Newer cars just have a solid bracket. Old cars have shocks with
> hydraulic fluid in them. Drill a hole, WEAR EYE GOGGLES - I'm not
> kidding - it will spray right at you. Wear a hat too!
>
> --Timbo
>
> On 7/13/05, GGehrke <ggehrke@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm thinking of collapsing my big ugly US bumpers, but I'm curious
> > what sort of crash protection they actually do provide.  Does anyone
> > know what the official spec is (i.e. were they designed to resist a
> > 10mph hit or something to that effect) or what consequence there would
> > be to having the shocks emptied?
> > At this point I'm not terribly concerned with doing it for it's
> > aesthetic value because the car's pretty rough looking anyways, but I
> > have them off for powerwashing and repairing a bit of rust, so I'm
> > thinking I might as well.  The car looks so good without any bumpers
> > on it, too.  If it's genuinely unsafe I'd rather just keep them as is
> > for now, though.
> >
> > Oh, and I just finished power washing the car.  Did a real bang up job
> > on the paint. Flaked right off all over the place.  Now the car's
> > literally about 6 different colours.  It was intentional, but ugh.
> >
> > Other recent projects:
> > My headlights died and I couldnt find the problem (sockets fine,
> > switch fine, fuse fine, etc etc) so I just wired them up with heavy
> > gauge wire to toggle switches on the dash.
> > New cable from battery to starter and ground strap to hopefully fix
> > other electrical gremlins and starting problems.  It does actually
> > seem to run much better!  It starts without me having to give it any
> > gas and idles more smoothly.
> > Painted my dash black to fix scuffs and petrified duct tape residue from
> the PO.
> > Seafoam!  Timbo was right, fun smokescreen!  This helped reveal, too,
> > though, that my entire exhaust system is shot.  Smoke poured not only
> > out the tailpipe but exited at various other locations down the whole
> > length.
> > Vacuum and febreeze the interior.
> >
> > Plus I helped my buddy cut his M3's exhaust in half, gut the cat and
> > weld it back together.  That was pretty fun too :)
> >
> > -Grant-
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