serious engine trouble

[davidwinchell2 at sprynet.com (David L. Winchell, II)]

Pat,

Not my engine this time, I was just throwing out another alternative and
one I would check before tearing in the motor to replace the crank
keyway. Steve may be able to tell us what his motor is doing and give us
a better understanding as to what is going on there.  I would trust what
Mr Bubb offers as the most likely as my experience is insignificant
compared to his base of knowledge on these cars. I just thought another
avenue for discussion might be helpful for Steve to diagnose and rectify
his current situation.  

I had for got about the sound that poor sounding motor made when the
teeth stripped off my belt.  That was MANY years ago and the details
fade with time.

Steve,

One thing I know for sure is that these guys know the cure for all that
ails with these great little old cars of ours.  Hope it gets running
right soon.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces+davidwinchell2=sprynet.com@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces+davidwinchell2=sprynet.com@scirocco.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Bureau
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:15 AM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: serious engine trouble


David, If this is all the details you have your going to have to provide
more
Questions:

1. does the engine sound like its turning over?
2. does it sound like its turning over but no compression
(thu-thu-thu-thu-thu)?

I think it may be as a few said, it could be the crank keyway,it could
be a few things but what worries me is that you said the enginestopped
working with the sound,last time 16v did that, it was the timing belt
(why I asked the second question)., it looked fine until you remove the
top cover completly and pull on it and it came loose...(broken bottom
end).



On 7/8/05, David L. Winchell, II <davidwinchell2@sprynet.com> wrote:
> One other possibility to think of is that the teeth on the timing belt

> may have stripped in one section allowing the crank to free spin and 
> nothing else.  I had this happen many years ago with the '82.  Granted

> it was an 8v and we are talking about a 16v, but I would check for 
> this possibility before breaking into the motor to look for the cure 
> to the problem.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dave
> 
> David L. Winchell, II
> DavidWinchell2@sprynet.com
> 87 2.0L 16V Scirocco
> 86 8V Scirocco
> 84 Scirocco BBS
> 01 V6 Galant
> 00 Silverado
> www.cardomain.com/id/xavsbud
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces+davidwinchell2=sprynet.com@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces+davidwinchell2=sprynet.com@scirocco.org] On

> Behalf Of Larry Fry
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:30 PM
> To: scas660@netzero.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: serious engine trouble
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Over the July 4th weekend my 86 16V broke down out of state (its in 
> > PA). While driving about 35mph the engine died with a thump. Sounded

> > like a
> 
> > part of the timing belt mechanism but I looked under the timing belt
> cover
> > and all seemed OK to the eye. However, nothing turns when I try to
> start
> > the car even though the starter and battery seem to be doing their
> job. If
> > anyone has any thoughts or if you know of anything that commonly
> breaks in
> > that part of the engine, I'd appreciate any help. I'd hate to have 
> > to
> tow
> > it back to NY or, even worse, junk it!
> >
> > Thanks, Steve
> 
> If the battery and starter are doing their job, then something is 
> turning. Do you mean the starter is whirring but the engine is not 
> turning over??
> 
> Sounds like the flywheel has sheared its bolts.  If the engine won't 
> turn over when you attempt to push start, then check the flywheel... 
> What does the clutch feel like?
> 
> Larry
> sandiego16v
> 
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