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Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.
You want to run the lowest octane your car is happy with, (that doesn't
cause knocking). On KS cars, the KS will pull timing if it hears a ping, so
the higher compression cars will want a higher octane. I try to find 94 for
the headache, and Klaus (10:1) gets 91 and up. (Right now he's getting to
sit out for a while longer...) At least that's my understanding of it. And
when I said 47, that's on an imperial gallon, so about 36. The 16V's always
had great highway mileage, we weren't travelling too fast, and it has a .80
fifth. She did worse on the way down to Ohio, the mix was too rich.
Cathy
On 4:44:00 pm 07/01/05 Roger concha <rogercv1@gmail.com> wrote:
> but to us 16v folk the 91 or higher octane really does make a
> difference
> On 7/1/05, matt <matt@safearmy.com> wrote:
> > I looked at my fuel door and it says 91 ron. Pretty sure thats
> > euro. So I still say it's meant for 87 octane gas. Hell a jh is 8.5:1
> > cr. I think 93 is overkill for the engine and wallet. Matt
> > 1981 Mars Red
> > 1984 Wolfsburg
> > 1987 8v Auto
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> > > From: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> > > things. Sent: 01 Jul 2005 20:01:15
> > >
> > > it says 91 on my gas door, and I think that's US. Been using
> > > the 93 since I moved to MD and was averaging 31+ when working
> > > in Tyson's Corner, VA. 100 miles round trip/day. I thought
> > > that was pretty damn good considering I was sitting in traffic
> > > most of the time. Keep in mind though that my odometer ain't
> > > working and I know the mileage of the trip from doing it in the
> > > old Pontiac before I got rid of it.
> > > On 7/1/05, matt <matt@safearmy.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > actually i don't know if that's true. The VW owners manual
> > > > says 91 ron which i think is the euro octane rating system and 87
clc
> > > > which is what we use in north america. so i think 87 is what it's
> > > > designed for. I'm no expert so i could be wrong Matt
> > > > 1981 Mars Red
> > > > 1984 Wolfsburg
> > > > 1987 8v Auto
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > > From: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> > > > > things. Sent: 01 Jul 2005 19:36:55
> > > > >
> > > > > Regular grade in that era WAS 91.... :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, I consistently run 93, and enjoy the difference...
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "matt" <matt@safearmy.com>
> > > > > > Date: 2005/07/01 Fri PM 02:52:49 EDT
> > > > > > To: "scirocco-l@scirocco.org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> > > > > > things.
> > > > > > I just use regular. It's 87 or 89 I can't remember. The
> > > > > > car runs just fine. In fact I consider it a waste of money to
run a
> > > > > > higher grade of fuel in a stock 8v. The engine was designed
to run
> > > > > > prefectly well on regular grade. Matt
> > > > > > 1981 Mars Red
> > > > > > 1984 Wolfsburg
> > > > > > 1987 8v Auto
> > > > > > Louisville, KY
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > > > > From: "Neptuno" <neptunonc@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among
> > > > > > > other things. Sent: 01 Jul 2005 18:35:10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 93
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _ROGER CONCHA _ wrote:
> > > > > > > what gas are you using tony?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/1/05, Neptuno wrote:
> > > > > > > > Is that city or Hwy matt? My 82 auto is a pig on
> > > > > > > > gas.....I can reack 26 only with HWY driving....
> > > > > > > > matt wrote:
> > > > > > > > Don't feel bad. I can only manage about 26 mpg in
> > > > > > > > my 8v automatic. Matt
> > > > > > > > 1981 Mars Red
> > > > > > > > 1984 Wolfsburg
> > > > > > > > 1987 8v Auto
> > > > > > > > Louisville, KY
> > > > > > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > > > > > > From: "Dan Bubb"
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among
> > > > > > > > > other things. Sent: 01 Jul 2005 17:21:59
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, with a 4 speed your mileage isn't suprising.
> > > > > > > > > My 84 always got about 28 mpg no matter how I
> > > > > > > > > drove it with the close ratio 5 speed.
> > > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "GGehrke"
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among
> > > > > > > > > other things.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't remember the exact year of your car,
> > > > > > > > > > but know it's a MK I. So, I assume 1.6L,
> > > > > > > > > > regular mechanical/vacuum advance distributor,
> > > > > > > > > CIS w/O2 sensor, and wide ratio 5 speed tranny
> > > > > > > > > (FF, FN, FO type stuff). 1.8 8V (swapped in by
> > > > > > > > > PO) which is, I guess, CIS-lambda (has O2 sensor)
> > > > > > > > > with original 4spd tranny. I have a 5spd in my
> > > > > > > > > other car that I might swap this fall.
> > > > > > > > > And Roger: Me, own a MkII? absolutely not. :-p
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Last, get some lowering springs so the nose of
> > > > > > > > > > your car isn't up in the air
> > > > > > > > > > causing all the air to go under the car and
> > > > > > > > > cause a lot of extra drag ;^)
> > > > > > > > > yea yea, i know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And I just realized Cathy must not be checking
> > > > > > > > > email yet this morning or she surely would have
> > > > > > > > > told me to take off my duckbill to decrease drag.
> > > > > > > > > heh.
> > > > > > > > > -Grant-
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > '83 GTI, Daily Driver...
> > > > > '87 16V, parts car
> > > > > '82 pickup, 2.0 16V, collecting dust...
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