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TECH: Koni install questions



yup, pipe wrench and a big-ol table vice does it for me every time. it helps
to have a mini-sledge to rap on the end of the pipe wrench. i've found that
impact-type removal works much better than pure monkey-torque.
Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Bureau" <ats@longcoeur.com>
To: "'Julie Macfarlane'" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>; <roccit_53@hotmail.com>;
<mardak@cogeco.ca>; <vwtype53@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: TECH: Koni install questions


> A screwdriver and a hammer??
>
> Don't you guys have a pipe wrench ???
>
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> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> ->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Julie Macfarlane
> ->Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:38 AM
> ->To: roccit_53@hotmail.com; mardak@cogeco.ca;
> ->vwtype53@yahoo.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->Subject: RE: TECH: Koni install questions
> ->
> ->Cath, I clamped the strut tower in a vice and used a large
> ->screw driver and hammer on the top nut like thing. Tapping it
> ->till it started to move.
> ->It didn't take too long.
> ->
> ->
> ->Julie Macfarlane
> ->1981 MKI 2L 16v
> ->Amsterdam NY
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->>From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>
> ->>To: mardak@cogeco.ca, vwtype53@yahoo.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->>Subject: RE: TECH: Koni install questions
> ->>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:25:39 +0000
> ->>
> ->>Thanks guys, it's just that collar that worries me, but
> ->we'll see. Pat's
> ->>site looks helpful too, thanks Pat. I'm not worried about
> ->getting the strut
> ->>out of the car (as I said, I learned how to screw that up
> ->royally when I
> ->>did the headache's) , it's replacing the insert that I
> ->wasn't that clear
> ->>on. I'll keep you posted on my progress, seems I have a few
> ->other things
> ->>occupying my time, but I'm aiming for finishing in the next
> ->two or three
> ->>days. That usually works out to weeks...hopefully it doesn't
> ->dip to like
> ->>-20, this snow thing is nuts.
> ->>And Ben, good explanation, you forgot to say not to undo the
> ->big nut on top
> ->>till you get it out of the car...( I did that last time on
> ->my son's advice,
> ->>not a good plan.)
> ->>Cathy
> ->>
> ->>
> ->>>From: "Mark" <mardak@cogeco.ca>
> ->>>To: "'Ben Harder'" <vwtype53@yahoo.com>,"'C Boyko'"
> ->>><roccit_53@hotmail.com>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> ->>>Subject: RE: TECH: Koni install questions
> ->>>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:58:53 -0500
> ->>>
> ->>>Just a quick addition - don't forget to add oil to the strut housing
> ->>>before you slide the new insert in.  The oil helps
> ->dissipate the heat
> ->>>generated by the damper.
> ->>>
> ->>>Also, if you're not reusing the old dampers and you don't
> ->have an impact
> ->>>gun, clamp a big visegrip on the shaft to keep it from
> ->turning while you
> ->>>loosen the 24mm nut on top...  The new Konis should have
> ->either an allen
> ->>>head or if they're adjustable, IIRC a 10 or 11mm relief in
> ->the top of
> ->>>the damper shaft to hold it when you torque the 24mm nut.
> ->>>
> ->>>HTH,
> ->>>
> ->>>Mark.
> ->>>75
> ->>>80 S
> ->>>81 S  2.0 ABA/JH/4K
> ->>>
> ->>>
> ->>> > -----Original Message-----
> ->>> > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-
> ->>> > bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Ben Harder
> ->>> > Sent: March 17, 2004 11:29 PM
> ->>> > To: C Boyko; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> ->>> > Subject: Re: TECH: Koni install questions
> ->>> >
> ->>> > Cathy,
> ->>> >
> ->>> >  I'll give you the very basic procedure, but please look in the
> ->>> > Bentley for some more details...
> ->>> >
> ->>> > The front strut assembly is one-piece, and can be
> ->removed from the
> ->>> > car quite easily... at the base of the strut housing you
> ->must remove
> ->>> > the two alignment bolts and then the two small nuts at
> ->the top of the
> ->>> > strut on the strut bearing (these are 13mm I believe and keep the
> ->>>strut
> ->>> > bearing in place).  You have to slide the strut off the steering
> ->>>knuckle
> ->>> > and then the strut housing can be manipulated out from the car.
> ->>> >
> ->>> > Once the strut is removed, the fun begins.  Use a spring
> ->compression
> ->>> > tool to attatch to the spring and compress the spring until it is
> ->>>loose
> ->>> > withing the assembly.  Using an impact gun and 24mm
> ->socket, remove
> ->>> > the nut at the top/center of the strut bearing.  With
> ->this nut removed
> ->>>you
> ->>> > can remove the strut bearing and the rubber bump stop
> ->and then the
> ->>>spring.
> ->>> > The worst part of the job is to now remove the collar on
> ->the strut
> ->>>housing
> ->>> > which holds the strut insert in the housing.  A local shop may be
> ->>>needed
> ->>> > to apply the proper form of "persuasion" to get this mother of a
> ->>>collar
> ->>> > off!
> ->>> > It is usually a problem on old cars... ie. your mk1 most likely.
> ->>> > But, once off, you can remove the old insert and install
> ->the Koni.
> ->>>Just
> ->>> > be sure to use the proper spacer that Koni supplies...
> ->>> >
> ->>> > Well, hopefully this is a start and helps out somewhat.
> ->>> > Please feel free to poke fun of my half-assed tech procedure, or
> ->>>simply
> ->>> > correct and add to it!  ;)
> ->>> >
> ->>> > Ben
> ->>> >
> ->>> >
> ->>> >
> ->>> > --- C Boyko <roccit_53@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ->>> > > Okay, I admit it, my cars are spoiled. So the last
> ->suspension came
> ->>>in a
> ->>> > box,
> ->>> > > all assembled, and "just bolted on". That means I learned a few
> ->>>things
> ->>> > not
> ->>> > > to do. Anyway, now it's time for the next car, and
> ->it's suspension
> ->>>is
> ->>> > "some
> ->>> > > assembly required" with one of those picture sheets where words
> ->>>should
> ->>> > be.
> ->>> > > (Konis)
> ->>> > > I think I have the back figured out ( I have to ream
> ->out the hole in
> ->>> > that
> ->>> > > top plate, but otherwise it's normal I think???) , but it's the
> ->>>front
> ->>> > I'd
> ->>> > > appreciate a tech procedure for, since the strut is an
> ->insert and
> ->>>I've
> ->>> > never
> ->>> > > dealt with that. It's the "out of the car" assembly
> ->that concerns
> ->>>me,
> ->>> > I'd
> ->>> > > like to just put it in once...
> ->>> > > Cathy
> ->>> > >
> ->>> > >
> ->>> > > BTW, I measured wheelwell height on a few of the cars.
> ->As it stands
> ->>>now,
> ->>> > > Klaus is a full 2 1/2 inches taller at the wheelwells than the
> ->>>headache.
> ->>> > > Though I'll miss the "no jack" oil changes, this
> ->suspension can only
> ->>>be
> ->>> > a
> ->>> > > good thing.
> ->>> > >
> ->>> >
> ->>> >
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