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VW layoffs & reliability
Hey Julie, what about heated power mirrors, ABS, Torsen, EDL, remote entry,
etc...
I hope they don't belong in the house too.
;-)
Cheers.
Marc
'83 Scirocco
'97 A4
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]De la part de Julie Macfarlane
> Envoy? : mercredi 10 mars 2004 19:09
> ? : marc@getty.net; vze28h54@verizon.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Objet : RE: VW layoffs & reliability
>
>
> With all those points in mind, a good engineer would apply the KISS
> principle.
>
> I like the early VW's because of the KISS principle.
> Few break downs (once you have replaced every thing)
> Easy to repair (with minimum tools).
> You don't have to marry a mechanic to get it repaired.
>
> And....
> The expencive stereo and tv belong in the house.
>
> Julie Macfarlane
> 1981 MKI 2L 16v
> Amsterdam NY
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Marc Getty" <marc@getty.net>
> >To: "'Chris'" <vze28h54@verizon.net>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: VW layoffs & reliability
> >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:08:49 -0500
> >
> >
> >The low German car reliability numbers you write about are new and
> >based on four things.
> >
> >1. Spending on print advertising by German car makers is *WAY LOW*
> >lately. Hint Hint.
> >
> >2. Most of the problems reported are minor, as in "my heated mirrors
> >don't work" kind of stuff. My Benz has never left me stranded by
> >loosing it's ability to take me places (other then flat tires), which
> >is the core intrinsic purpose of a car.
> >
> >3. The level of expectation for reliability is very high on all
> >luxury cars, slightly higher on German cars. If the horn breaks on
> >your Chevy Caviler you don't care, if the cigarette lighter breaks in
> >your E500 you get pissed!
> >
> >4. All luxury cars are incredibly complicated and have a lot more
> >parts then an economy car. Heated mirrors is not an option on Chevy
> >Caviler. The key to my Benz is more complicated then the engine,
> >transmission, or fuel injection system on a Chevy Caviler.
> >
> >-Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> >[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:09 AM
> >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: Re: VW layoffs & reliability
> >
> >
> >Reliability is going to have to be "Job One". Just got the new care
> >issue
> >of Consumer Reports. In the Small Car category: Reliability for '01 -
> >'03
> >for 5 VW models ranged from 40% worse than average to 104% worse than
> >average (the turbos). They ranked below 2 Hyundai models and a Chevy
> >Cavalier. The saving grace for Vws is that repair costs are probably
> >much
> >lower than many or most cars. The '03 VWs ranked well on
> >reliability.
> >Maybe they have got it right now.
> >
> >The Asian cars topped the reliability charts. American cars from the
> >Big
> >Three ranked, on average, slightly above the European cars. (For the
> >"first
> >time in decades.") M-B did not come out very well. Luxury cars: BMW
> >7
> >Series - 175% worse then ave. Boy what an insult to BMW buyers. Pay
> >a
> >whopping sum for the car. It doesn't run and you know they pay
> >through the
> >nose for repairs.
> >
> >But people love some cars despite their short comings on
> >reliability. Reliability chart. "Sporty Car" category. Mini Cooper.
> >99%
> >worse than average.
> >Flip back to another chart. "Most Satisfying", Small Car category.
> >Mini
> >Cooper is one of the three cars listed.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >At 10:44 AM 03/09/2004 -0700, Eric S wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe VW will wake up soon. Upmarket moves like the Toureg and the
> > >Phaeton were stupid...now they feel the stupidity of those decisions
> > >biting at their heels.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Eric
> > >www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> > >
> > >79 VW Iltis
> > >81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v
> > >81 Scirocco S (TDI Swap project)
> > >90 Corrado TDI
> > >91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow swap project)
> > >
> > >Julie Macfarlane said:
> > > >
> > > > Even our favorite company is hurting. Over extended?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >http://edition.cnn.com/2004/BUSINESS/03/09/vw.layoffs.reut/index.htm
> > > > l
> > > >
> > > > Julie Macfarlane
> > > > 1981 MKI 2L 16v
> > > > Amsterdam NY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ev
> > > >
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