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california smog defeats our engine swap

Jeeze, I used to dream the California Dream.
The manager of the Monroe muffler shop has seen my car being built piece by 
piece. I needed an inspection.
"Every thing work? Light etc?"
"Yup" says I
"Ok" and he puts the sticker in the window....

Only thing I can think of to say "I like NY"...



Julie Macfarlane
1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
Amsterdam NY
http://www.menloparkrandd.com/scirocco
http://www.menloparkrandd.com/my_rocc





>From: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>
>To: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
>Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 17:50:14 -0700
>
>You bet your a$$ it helps me if all I need is a PO box in Cameron Park or
>Placerville...  :)
>
>Hell - it would give me an excuse to hit Tahoe!!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Fry" <rocco16@sbcglobal.net>
>To: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>; <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>;
>"'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:33 PM
>Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
>
>
> > Jeff,
> > Apparently you do not have to live in the county of record for your car.
> > Lots of guys who live here in San Diego have a post office box in Pine
> > Valley or Julian (where no smog is required) just so they can avoid the
>smog
> > checks.  Even though it's all San Diego COUNTY.   This may not help 
>you...
> > Larry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>
> > To: <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>; "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'"
> > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
> >
> >
> > > Don't you actually have to LIVE in the county in which you're
>registering
> > > the car?
> > >
> > > I actually had to deal with this f*cking mess myself today - went to a
> > > "recommended" local smog station for the SECOND time in the last 
>couple
>of
> > > days. First time, the "recommended" smog tech was too busy to mees 
>with
> > the
> > > tuning in case it didn't pass and told me to come back during the 
>week.
> > > Well, I went back this afternoon only to find the garage manager on
>duty.
> > > F*ucking tough guy says, "do you know if there's an aftermarket cam in
> > > there? The idle seems kinda lumpy..." Smart-ass...even if it is only a
> > > g-grind...This raises his suspicions so he goes and looks up the 
>vacuum
> > line
> > > diagram and notices that my ignition retard port on the distro is
>capped.
> > > "well, it just failed right there...". (*&$^%*&
> > >
> > > I've still got a couple of more-work-involved options, but it pisses 
>me
> > off
> > > when they get all worked up over the visual part of it when there's no
> > doubt
> > > it'll pass the sniffer...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Honnold" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > > To: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:09 PM
> > > Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > >
> > >
> > > > Why did you have to go the referee in the first place?
> > > >
> > > > None of the CA smog monkeys I have ever been to would have noticed 
>an
>RV
> > > > motor instead of the stock JH.  As for cis-e, most of them wouldn't
> > notice
> > > > that either.
> > > >
> > > > If you can share with us why you have to go to the REF, maybe one of
>the
> > > CA
> > > > peeps can figure out a work around.......like registering the car in 
>a
> > > > county with NO smog?????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian Honnold
> > > > Director of Multifamily Acquisitions
> > > > Pacific Capital Investments
> > > > Phone:  916.773.3300
> > > > Fax:  916.773.3208
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:25 PM
> > > > > To: Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org
> > > > > Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > > > >
> > > > > Grind off the V and stamp a D.  If you know what it really is
> > > > > who cares.  OR you could swap the pistons and head in/on to a
> > > > > RD block or even the block that is stock for that car.  The
> > > > > engine code tells us what the entire engine is (including
> > > > > head) not just what block it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > So did you have a long conversation with this guy about the
> > > > > swap or did he figure it out for himself?
> > > > >
> > > > > Man I'm glad I don't have to do that!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Joe
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:21 PM
> > > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > Subject: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well today my brother took his car to the smog ref to try and
> > > > > get it certified.  It's an RV motor out of a '92 GTI using
> > > > > CIS-E.  He was confident that the guy would accept it, but it
> > > > > was a no go.  I was pretty sure that it would need to be a
> > > > > complete swap (harness and all from donor).
> > > > >
> > > > > If it was an RD block he would have been fine because then we
> > > > > could have called it a complete swap from an 86-88 GTI/GLI.
> > > > > However, it's an RV.  It's sad because it's pretty much the
> > > > > same engine from what I can tell.
> > > > >
> > > > > They were giving him crap about the electronic ignition,
> > > > > saying it should have had a vacuum advance distributor.  But
> > > > > wouldn't any high compression motor be equipped with a knock
> > > > > sensor and consequently an electronic advance distributor?
> > > > >
> > > > > In any case, we have the car running with CIS-E so it's just
> > > > > a matter of finding an engine that will be legal in it.  We
> > > > > do have a complete PL laying around, but who knows what that
> > > > > would amount to in terms of not using the power steering
> > > > > pump, exhaust, etc.  This really sucks because it took way
> > > > > too long to get this thing going.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >
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