Something funny

[MK1Scirocco16v at comcast.net (Dave Ewing)]

The whiners and puppets and such came later after I was called much worse.
The information about the John John candidates is also true, check it out.

I own two sciroccos now and one on the way.  A diesel pickup (soon to be
turbo diesel) a 1.8 79 Rabbit and a 78 rabbit along with about 10 cars worth
of parts in my carport.  LOTS of experience as well which was the reason I
stayed as long as I have, to try to help others.  I've been on the list for
quite some time and enjoy the list but don't enjoy hearing over and over
about how Bush this and Bush that when it's all unsupported.  Once in a
while it gets under my skin as a veteran and a working married parent of 5
scared of what my kids are going to have to endure.

I don't constantly focus on things like this and I let a lot go by without
commenting so as far as an insulting noisy blowhard is concerned, I guess it
depends on who you talk to.  But association is another entire different
subject which is why this will be my last post.  I don't need this as it
wastes my time.  I don't feel enlightened or benefited in any way and I get
very little if anything from this list as most is constant repetition and
jibber jabber about events and who drank or smoked what.

I am not leaving only because of this situation but because I believe I have
outgrown this list as others before me who have moved on as well.  It kinda
breaks my heart to leave but I am sure many of you will be happier.  So,
happy roccin' and stay safe.  Vote your conscience and, for God's sakes, do
some research and get some facts before you have a hand in deciding who is
going to run the most powerful country in the world for the next 4 years!!

See ya!

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ian Butler [mailto:ian@hplx.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:19 AM
To: Dave Ewing
Cc: Kevin Collins; Dan Bubb
Subject: RE: Something funny


On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Dave Ewing wrote:

> So, tell me what is wrong with that statement?  If you don't want to hear
> anything in support of then don't thrash in the first place.  What is
wrong
> with it??????  That's what don't start meant.  Someone else started it not
> me!  And I wasn't calling names or thrashing, only pointing some things
out
> in a very calm way.
>
> Can you all be any more one sided???  Hypocritical??
>
> Dave

It wasn't "some things", it was a 10K email, of which more than half was
your gab.  And it was thrashing -- a long tirade against the likes of
those who might oppose you or your views, including "Big Government
democrat spenders", Clinton, Gore, and Kerry, with lengthy strings of
punctuation marks thrown in for fun (three is the max for proper style
according to most guides, for future reference.)  Perhaps you didn't call
names to begin with, but you were quite condescending ("What would you
do??" and "Would you of [sic] liked to have [sic] Gore in the Whitehouse
[sic] when this all came down???") and I can quote you -- just a few lines
lines up, in fact -- calling everyone involved one-sided and hypocritical.
Except, presumably, yourself.

Ketchup dude and his Hospital [sic] closing doctor crushing ambulance
chasing lawyer buddy.  Whiners, puppets.  No name calling, indeed.

I'm not entirely sure where you get off calling me a hypocrite anyway,
since I just expressed my discontent with you airing your lengthy
political views ON AN AUTOMOTIVE LIST as opposed to the numerous other
available forums for activism.  And the fact that I have had more than one
person -- seven, in fact -- explain to me off-list that you tend to be an
insulting, noisy blowhard.  This fact is certainly backed up by the other
flame wars you've been involved in that I've seen since I've been
subscribed, and confirmed by a quick search of the archives.  Not to
mention further condescension ("Then don't start!  Are you the list
police??", which I imagine being spoken in a "You're not my mommy!"
voice.)  We are all, presumably, adults here.

For the record, I don't care about, and didn't particularly want to hear
about, your own political views, and not simply because I disagree with
them.  I'd have done the same if there was a long left-wing tirade, and
you'll note I've made no political statements of my own.  I just don't
want to hear about it from anyone on a car-related forum.  I'd think that
you, as a man of strong opinions, would have enough taste to know when and
where they are best voiced.

As an aside, do you even own a Scirocco?  I'm just curious.

ian



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