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Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...



Perhaps she is talking about the jute under the tarboards you find sometimes?

Jute is what looks like tons of different color threads...  It tears easily, 
and as a consequence spreads dust like a m/f...
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Regards,
David Utley
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Quoting Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>:

> erm, no rags in any of the rockers i've cut...
> Al
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
> To: <mr.utility@highstream.net>; <amalventano@sc.rr.com>;
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:25 AM
> Subject: RE: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> 
> 
> > Sounds like a good idea to me, but what about moisture retention?
> > What about the rocker panels as well as they are filled with a rag like
> > material. Most of that would have to be removed prior to filling.
> >
> >
> >
> > Julie Macfarlane
> > 1981 MKI 2L 16v
> > Amsterdam NY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> > >Reply-To: mr.utility@highstream.net
> > >To: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Subject: RE: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> > >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:01:55 -0600
> > >
> > >Comments/concerns within...
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Allyn [mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com]
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 2:38 PM
> > >To: mr.utility@highstream.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >Subject: Re: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> > >
> > >
> > >1. whats a good entry point (you would have to drill somewhere)
> > >I think they do allude to drilling in some cases...  I personally am not
> > >against it, esp. if I think I will get as much of a gain as I will.  I
> > >would
> > >only drill on the inside of the car however, and seal appropriately when
> > >finished...
> > >
> > >2. how do you get the foam distributed within all areas of the rocker?
> > >
> > >A very good question, especially once I see the cutaways that you
> > >offered...
> > >I would say at this point you are a better expert than I am here!  :)  I
> do
> > >have a Rabbit body I could sacrifice for this, and perhaps do a write-up
> > >about it...  I might do well to go buy a Sawzall and go to town... It
> would
> > >be a bit of a pity, a good straight body like that....  What do you
> think,
> > >Allyn?  With your sectioning the Sciroccos, and me doing this Rabbit,
> could
> > >be come up with a plan for the best way to apply this stuff?
> > >I will call them tomorrow and ask if they have any direct experience with
> > >any particular import, and offer up our concerns for the multiple layers
> > >stopping flow...  Perhaps they will be able to offer some ideas as
> well...
> > >Let me know what you think, and I will report what the foam folks say...
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >David
> > >
> > >
> > >also, heres another idea, check out this pic of the front engine bay:
> >
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/030121-225551-Z10.jp
> g
> > >there are a few plugs which would allow entry points without drilling
> > >there is also the area within the firewall:
> >
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/020328-125608-Z10.jp
> g
> > >(plug visible in this case)
> > >theres also some decent candidates in the rear:
> > >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-130148-Z10.jpg
> > >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-135553-Z10.jpg
> > >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-135611-Z10.jpg
> > >especially the last one. that entire beam that wraps along the wheel well
> > >is
> > >totally hollow, as well as the beam that runs across the bottom of the
> > >hatch, forward of the wheel wells. the part thats missing in this pic:
> >
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/030130-204021-Z10.jp
> g
> > >you can see the outline of where it started just forward of the base of
> the
> > >shock tower.
> > >
> > >anyhow, this may be more creative uses of extra foam than just throwing
> it
> > >into large vacant areas within the fenders/body.
> > >hth
> > >Al
> > >
> > >Al
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:16 PM
> > >Subject: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Scirocco Listers,
> > > >    It is I, your favorite pest...  :)
> > > >
> > > >   I mentioned on another post some time back about using expanding
> foam
> > >in
> > > > the cavities of our cars to increase rigidity and lessen unwanted
> > > > road/engine noise, and a few replied that you were interested...  I
> > >aplogize
> > > > to those that responded, as I have lost your names...  Please reply
> once
> > > > more, and I will do a better job of keeping up with it in the
> future...
> > >I
> > > > also apologize for taking this long to post the link to the Vortex
> post
> > >I
> > > > made some time back discussing it, as well as the article from Sport
> > >Compact
> > > > Car discussing it further...  I have been all over this, and I plan to
> > >buy
> > > > some for at least three cars...  It then occurred to me that some of
> you
> > >may
> > > > be interested in this as well, so here is a direct inquiry for all of
> > >you
> > > > intersted in participating in a group buy, please let me know...
> > > >
> > > > The article in Sport Compact Car is as follows...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0006scc_proj300zx
> > > >
> > > > Look near the end for the mention of the foam...  I recommend reading
> > >the
> > > > whole articl though, as you will see that they intend to double the
> > > > horsepower of that 300ZX.  They thought about a roll cage, but decided
> > >that
> > > > in that car, it was not feasible for a road-going two door.  This is
> > >what
> > > > piqued my interest, as I am 6'4", can really cannot manga losing more
> > > > interior space, I need all that I have left and then some...  That,
> and
> > >the
> > > > fact that this is cheaper than a roll cage, AND it has sound dampening
> > > > abilities too?  Seems like a win-win situation...
> > > >
> > > > The manufacturer is as follows...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.itwfoamseal.com/
> > > >
> > > >   As far as we can tell, it would cost us about 150.00 or so including
> > > > shipping to do each car, and that is if we went crazy and did all open
> > > > cavities (as I intend to do
> > > >
> > > >   If you are interested, or even if you are not and you are bored and
> > >need
> > > > something to read, (;-)) I invite you to look over the forwarded
> > >material
> > > > and see what you think...  While I am no expert, I will be happy to
> > >field
> > >as
> > > > many questions as I can...
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you all think...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >    David Utley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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