[way ot] superbowl

[tim at unrealexpectations.ath.cx (stetson)]

It wouldn't have even been concidered for the "shock" or "entertainment"
value that MTV was looking for if they weren't basing their parameters on
a well known popular value.

So.....if the whole thing had gone off w/o a hitch, then there wouldn't
have been anything to take offense w/ ?

I always like exposing my youngster to men saying, "I'm gonna get you
naked (for obviously sexually intentioned aim) before the end of this
song"!

That's the hinge of the entire situation in my eyes. It was laden w/
sexual inuendo <sp?> and actual nudity crept in instead of very thinly
veiled nudity.

That it happened during a "national event" <feh!> is why soooo many
children could be irrepairabley scared? That the "game" is not-so-loosely
based on and referred to in war-like terms and objectives shouldn't have
been taken into consideration? Only that it didn't have any nudity?

Seems to be a serious flaw in that arguement.

My $.05


Tim

P.S. Even though my signitures are automatically generated, sometimes
kismet just has to rear it's ugly head.

I put aside my copy of "BOWLING WORLD" and think about GUN CONTROL
legislation...and I LIKE guns.

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Ron Pieper wrote:

> You know, I was going to keep out of this but I can't resist.  It's complete BS to blame a lot of
> the reaction to JJ's right breast on our culture and history.  It's further BS to say that our
> value system is screwed up.  This has nothing do to with war, nothing to do with hunger, it has to
> do with living within the rules of our societly, like it or not.  Face it, flawed though our
> country may be, it is what it is - deal with it.  Having JJ and that doofus next to her conspire
> to flash us all, along with the suggestive nature of the halftime show, insulted and angered me.
> It was NOT what I expected (or prepared for) - I was there to watch a FOOTBALL GAME (and the ads).
>  Face it, the so-called 'entertainment' was well off-base.
>
> It's NOT the US culture's fault, it's NOT our "screwed up value system."  It's the fault of a
> couple of Hollywood jackasses in an immature (and successful) attempt to get some press.  And it's
> NOT what I want my 5-year old sitting next to me watching.  Had I been prepared for it, well, then
> I could have planned.
>
> JJ and Justin deserve what they get, and vise versa.
>
> Thus spake the Cheapass.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --- L F <rocco16v@netzero.net> wrote:
> > Hmmmm. I wanted to argue Toby's point.....but couldn't come up with a good rebuttal!
> > Well said, Mr. Reed.
> >
> > Larry
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: T. Reed
> >   To: miT
> >   Cc: 'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org' ; 'Dave Ewing'
> >   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:57 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [way ot] superbowl
> >
> >
> >   Amen. It's amazing to me how people consider nudity so "harmful" to
> >   children. Kids don't know the difference until we force our screwed
> >   up value system onto them. Nudity != Sex, and even if it was, I still
> >   question the argument that it is harmful in any way. It's the people
> >   layering shame upon it that are doing the harm.
> >
> >   -Toby
> >
> >
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