[way ot] superbowl

[jtoomasson at yahoo.com (Jeff Toomasson)]

I like to stay well beyond these discussions (for reasons I won't go into
now), but that was very well-said, Ron!

JT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Pieper" <rapieper@yahoo.com>
To: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>; "T. Reed" <treed2@wsu.edu>; "miT"
<mit@lunartransmission.com>
Cc: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "'Dave Ewing'"
<MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [way ot] superbowl


> You know, I was going to keep out of this but I can't resist.  It's
complete BS to blame a lot of
> the reaction to JJ's right breast on our culture and history.  It's
further BS to say that our
> value system is screwed up.  This has nothing do to with war, nothing to
do with hunger, it has to
> do with living within the rules of our societly, like it or not.  Face it,
flawed though our
> country may be, it is what it is - deal with it.  Having JJ and that
doofus next to her conspire
> to flash us all, along with the suggestive nature of the halftime show,
insulted and angered me.
> It was NOT what I expected (or prepared for) - I was there to watch a
FOOTBALL GAME (and the ads).
>  Face it, the so-called 'entertainment' was well off-base.
>
> It's NOT the US culture's fault, it's NOT our "screwed up value system."
It's the fault of a
> couple of Hollywood jackasses in an immature (and successful) attempt to
get some press.  And it's
> NOT what I want my 5-year old sitting next to me watching.  Had I been
prepared for it, well, then
> I could have planned.
>
> JJ and Justin deserve what they get, and vise versa.
>
> Thus spake the Cheapass.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --- L F <rocco16v@netzero.net> wrote:
> > Hmmmm. I wanted to argue Toby's point.....but couldn't come up with a
good rebuttal!
> > Well said, Mr. Reed.
> >
> > Larry
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: T. Reed
> >   To: miT
> >   Cc: 'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org' ; 'Dave Ewing'
> >   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:57 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [way ot] superbowl
> >
> >
> >   Amen. It's amazing to me how people consider nudity so "harmful" to
> >   children. Kids don't know the difference until we force our screwed
> >   up value system onto them. Nudity != Sex, and even if it was, I still
> >   question the argument that it is harmful in any way. It's the people
> >   layering shame upon it that are doing the harm.
> >
> >   -Toby
> >
> >
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