<snip Larry> So, Toby, how do you know this...??? Hmmmm... Larry When I see roccos (not very often anymore now that I live in the boonies) almost a third of them have the trunk unlocked -Toby <end snip> Jumping in for Toby... it's a visual check. If the slot for the key on the push button release is horizontal, the hatch is unlocked. Go push the release and you're in the car. -Brad '86 Scirocco 16v