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octane baby!



sorry if I sounded annoyed (which I was not) accept my apologies on the tone
of the message.

nah, waitting for my exhaust to arrive (will be here on weds.)
then I will tune the car and find some time to get it finally dynoed (I
myself would like to know what that puppy is giving me.


ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@ix.netcom.com]
=>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:08 AM
=>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>Subject: Re: octane baby!
=>
=>
=>I didn't assume anything!
=>I know what engine you have. I was reciting the specs on Saturday at
=>Bigmac's (don't get a big head over it).
=>Do you know what engine Dan Smith has (the guy that started this
=>thread!)??
=>JH, JH, JH!
=>Everybody's talking about engines with KS ignition with no mention of a JH
=>(which WAS the original question)!!
=>So, I stand by what I said!
=>BTW, got a dyno on your hotshit "hybrid" yet?
=>Dan
=>
=>----- Original Message -----
=>From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
=>To: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:03 AM
=>Subject: RE: octane baby!
=>
=>
=>> there you go assuming again, who said I had a JH ?
=>>
=>> and for your info I run a hybrib JH Head with 3A Block Knock sensor, and
=>> with 89 it  pings at 105'F outside temps.
=>>
=>> I stand by what I said...
=>>
=>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> MSN:ATSGTX@hotmail.com |YAHOO:ATSGTX@yahoo.com
=>> ICQ:32918816           |AIM:Texasscirocco
=>> ----------------------------------------------
=>>
=>>
=>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@ix.netcom.com]
=>> =>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:55 AM
=>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>Subject: Re: octane baby!
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>There's only one problem with your equation. A JH doesn't ping on
=>> =>89, so if
=>> =>you stick a "not =" everywhere you have an "=" in your equation
=>> =>that will be
=>> =>the correct equation for an 8.5 CR non-KS JH.
=>> =>Every engine has an octane requirement. Once you meet that
=>> =>requirement going
=>> =>higher will only lighten your wallet (less weight=better mileage!)
=>> =>PL, 3A, ABA all have a higher octane requirement than a JH.
=>Feeding them
=>> =>swill will probably hurt your mileage as the KS retards timing under
=>some
=>> =>circumstances (do you really think it's retarding timing under
=>> =>part throttle
=>> =>cruise conditions which is where you spend the vast majority of your
=>> =>driving??).
=>> =>Check this out. Perhaps not definitive, but input none the less. See
=>para
=>> =>6.13 and 6.15
=>> =>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/
=>> =>Dan
=>> =>
=>> =>----- Original Message -----
=>> =>From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
=>> =>To: "Dan Smith" <sad_rocc@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>> =>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:11 PM
=>> =>Subject: RE: octane baby!
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>> higher octone = less ping = burn fuel better = better hp = better
=>> =>efficiency
=>> =>> = probable better gas mileage,
=>> =>>
=>> =>> I know if I put 89 in my car a tank lasts me less than 250
=>> =>miles, at 93 I
=>> =>> run 300-350 on a tank..
=>> =>>
=>> =>>
=>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>> =>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>> MSN:ATSGTX@hotmail.com |YAHOO:ATSGTX@yahoo.com
=>> =>> ICQ:32918816           |AIM:Texasscirocco
=>> =>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>>
=>> =>>
=>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Smith
=>> =>> =>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 5:28 PM
=>> =>> =>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>Subject: octane baby!
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Yeah, a corny play on a song title, but I couldn't resist.
=>> =>> =>Anyways, CO has octane ratings at the pump ranging from 85 to 94.
=>> =>> =>With gas prices ranging from $1.77 to 1.99 respectively, I want
=>> =>> =>to see if I can settle this hot debate among my housemates. Does
=>> =>> =>higher octane gas equal better gas mileage? And enough of a
=>> =>> =>better mileage to make it cost effective? This would be for my
=>> =>> =>relatively stock 84 8v, which doesn't deserve high octane gas if
=>> =>> =>it doesn't make a difference mileage-wise. When responding,
=>> =>> =>please try to keep the formula equations to a minimum as high
=>> =>> =>school chem was a long time ago and I just squeeked by.
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>TIA,
=>> =>> =>Dan
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
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