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How much more do we have to hear this SOB? (was: knock light LED?)
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I guess I'll come off like some of the cranky "Stay on Topic" folks, but =
oh well...I'm actually only half-serious - my Delete key does work...but =
I've had a rough day and need to vent.=20
I'm tired of hearing about this beater Saab - I would never bat an eye =
at a couple of random mentions (hell, I'm sure I've pulled out the sorry =
"I miss my M3" statement a couple of times.) But I bet I could pull out =
20 messages about this thing in the last 4-6 weeks since Dan bought =
it...go back to Sciroccos, buddy. This Saab thing doesn't suit you.
Jeff (vomits out the evil spirit that has possessed him)
Sorry, Dan. No offense intended. :)
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dan Smith=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting 16V thought: knock light LED?
I got to do that to my Saab! Where did you see the article on it? =
(assuming there is one?) I think my knock sensor is on it's way out, as =
the car isn't producing nearly as much boost as it should before =
blowoff. Not that it's producing anything at the moment but for future =
reference it sounds quite useful.=20
Dan=20
Jason <jason@scirocco.org> wrote:=20
At 06:28 AM 3/28/2003, T Berk wrote:
>Ryan H wrote:
> > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, T Berk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ryan H wrote:
> > > > >
>
> > > > > know, there has to be some wire with a basic signal
> > > > > (12V or 0V) for knock, so I can hook an LED up to see
> > > > > when knock is present.
> > > > > Anyone already try such a thing?
> > > > > ___________________________
> > > >
> > > >=20
> > > >
> > > > Can these schematics help any?
> > > >
> > > > TBerk
> > > >
> > > One way to do it is via a compare ckt.
> > > if the output of the CIS box =3D=3D output of the knock box no =
knock.
> > > if !=3D retard occuring.
> > > brian
> >
> > Brian: Sounds a bit too complicated to make... although I'm no=20
> electrical engineer.
> > TBerk, your schematic is pretty good, so maybe you have some =
ideas - do=20
> you think a 12v LED with the positive lead to pin 13 would do =
anything?
> >
>
>I would be concerned with signal drop if you just hook up an LED, =
I'd
>want you to wrap a coil around the signal wire (#13) and use it to
>trigger an LED circuit.
>
>Wait, all that would do is flicker when the mic that is the K/S was
>fed ping. Better yet would be to get a signal from when the K/S box
>goes into action, lets see...
Very, very interesting indeed: This was standard equipment on my =
Mom's=20
1987 Peugeot 505 STX V6. Peugeot put a little yellow LED at the base =
of=20
the instrument cluster that would flicker when the car sensed knock.
In our case, the thing flickered all the time prompting the =
dealership to=20
call it a bullshit gimmick and disconnecting the LED.
But since then, I've always thought it'd be cool to have one! :)
Jason
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I'll come off like some of the =
cranky "Stay=20
on Topic" folks, but oh well...I'm actually only half-serious - my =
Delete key=20
does work...but I've had a rough day and need to vent. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm tired of hearing about this beater =
Saab - I=20
would never bat an eye at a couple of random mentions (hell, I'm sure =
I've=20
pulled out the sorry "I miss my M3" statement a couple of times.) But I =
bet I=20
could pull out 20 messages about this thing in the last 4-6 =
weeks=20
since Dan bought it...go back to Sciroccos, buddy. This Saab thing =
doesn't suit=20
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff (vomits out the evil spirit that =
has possessed=20
him)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry, Dan. No offense intended. =20
:)</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dsad_rocc@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com";>Dan =
Smith</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 28, 2003 =
2:09=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Interesting 16V =
thought:=20
knock light LED?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P>I got to do that to my Saab! Where did you see the article on it? =
(assuming=20
there is one?) I think my knock sensor is on it's way out, as the car =
isn't=20
producing nearly as much boost as it should before blowoff. Not that =
it's=20
producing anything at the moment but for future reference it sounds =
quite=20
useful.=20
<P>Dan=20
<P> <B><I>Jason <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jason@scirocco.org";>jason@scirocco.org</A>></I></B> =
wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">At=20
06:28 AM 3/28/2003, T Berk wrote:<BR>>Ryan H wrote:<BR>> > =
> On=20
Thu, 27 Mar 2003, T Berk wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > =
>=20
Ryan H wrote:<BR>> > > > ><BR>><SNIP><BR>> > =
>=20
> > know, there has to be some wire with a basic =
signal<BR>> >=20
> > > (12V or 0V) for knock, so I can hook an LED up to =
see<BR>>=20
> > > > when knock is present.<BR>> > > > =
>=20
Anyone already try such a thing?<BR>> > > > >=20
___________________________<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > =
>=20
<HTTP: home.mindspring.com ~tberk index.html><BR>> > > =
><BR>>=20
> > > Can these schematics help any?<BR>> > > =
><BR>>=20
> > > TBerk<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > One =
way to do=20
it is via a compare ckt.<BR>> > > if the output of the CIS =
box =3D=3D=20
output of the knock box no knock.<BR>> > > if !=3D retard=20
occuring.<BR>> > > brian<BR>> ><BR>> > Brian: =
Sounds a=20
bit too complicated to make... although I'm no <BR>> electrical=20
engineer.<BR>> > TBerk, your schematic is pretty good, so =
maybe you=20
have some ideas - do <BR>> you think a 12v LED with the positive =
lead to=20
pin 13 would do anything?<BR>> ><BR>><BR>>I would be =
concerned=20
with signal drop if you just hook up an LED, I'd<BR>>want you to =
wrap a=20
coil around the signal wire (#13) and use it to<BR>>trigger an =
LED=20
circuit.<BR>><BR>>Wait, all that would do is flicker when the =
mic that=20
is the K/S was<BR>>fed ping. Better yet would be to get a signal =
from=20
when the K/S box<BR>>goes into action, lets see...<BR><BR>Very, =
very=20
interesting indeed: This was standard equipment on my Mom's <BR>1987 =
Peugeot=20
505 STX V6. Peugeot put a little yellow LED at the base of <BR>the=20
instrument cluster that would flicker when the car sensed =
knock.<BR><BR>In=20
our case, the thing flickered all the time prompting the dealership =
to=20
<BR>call it a bullshit gimmick and disconnecting the LED.<BR><BR>But =
since=20
then, I've always thought it'd be cool to have one!=20
=
:)<BR>Jason<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR=
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