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Larry, they don't actually start racing until the 26 second mark. At that
point the Civic pulls slightly on the Viper and then the Viper gains just a
few feet before they slow down. It is a complete draw for the real part of
the duel. The Viper driver gives the Civic guy lots of respect calling his
car a "nasty bitch" and saying, "god damn... that is one bad motherf*cker".
:^) He also discusses only being able to beat him off the line where his
traction advantage gives him the edge. :^) -great video!
--
Scott F. Williams
NJ Scirocco nut
'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
  -----Original Message-----
  From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of L F
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:46 PM
  To: Anson Clement; scirocco-l@scirocco.org; Euroroc II
  Subject: Re: 8v vs 16v eh! RE: 16v body kit questions


  I could only download the first 23 seconds of the Cheesefrogg run, but it
was quite obvious that the Viper was toying with the ricer.  After all, in
23 seconds the Viper could have run the quarter mile.  Twice.
  Tell me what happened after the 23 second mark???

  Larry
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Euroroc II
    To: Anson Clement ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:29 PM
    Subject: Re: 8v vs 16v eh! RE: 16v body kit questions


    I'm not arguing 8V v. 16V I'm arguing stock v. modified... Chesefrog or
whoever that is did a great job running a viper but he didn't exactly have
stock civic. Based on this heavily modified civic it would not be fair to
say that 'civic's can keep up with vipers'... that's my point.

    -Raffi

    At 09:24 PM 3/27/2003 +0000, Anson Clement wrote:




      If you read the ice race results post it sounds like he's refering to
an aba conversion.

      Anson

      OH and why not? You guys do start OUT with 33 extra HP after all???
      Depends on how modded the 8v was...that we don't know. I mean,
depending on the mods, it *might* have been only making similar HP numbers
to a stock 16v.
      --
      Eric
      Northglenn, CO
      79 VW Iltis
      81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
      81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (Waiting for BAE Turbo Install)
      83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
      91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in
progress)
      --- Euroroc II wrote:
      >Modified 8V vs. stock 16V....
      >
      >Don't get so excited, this is not a fair comparison.
      >
      >-RGK-
      >
      >
      >
      >At 11:40 AM 3/27/2003 -0600, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
      >>what's this..?
      >>
      >>an 8v blew the doors off a 16v? Oh.. Oh.. Oh...
      >>
      >>(Looking at larry)... Sixteen Valves AH!
      >>
      >>-Damn we need to arrange a track day at cincy, any news on that?-
      >>
      >>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
      >>
      >>
      >>=>-----Original Message-----
      >>=>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
      >>=>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Jason Adams
      >>=>
      >>=>BTW a modded 8v blew the
      >>=>doors off my stock 16v last weekend... need more torque!
      >>
      >>
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<DIV><SPAN class=440455200-28032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Larry, 
they don't actually start racing until the 26 second mark. At that point the 
Civic pulls slightly on the Viper and then the Viper gains just a few feet 
before they slow down. It is a complete draw for the real part of the duel. The 
Viper driver gives the Civic guy lots of respect calling his car a "nasty bitch" 
and saying, "god damn...&nbsp;that is one bad motherf*cker". :^) He also 
discusses only being able to beat him off the line where his traction advantage 
gives him the edge. :^) -great video!<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT size=2>--<BR>Scott 
F. Williams<BR>NJ Scirocco nut<BR>'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS<BR>Mazda 323 GTX 
turbo "assaulted" vehicle<BR>Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"<BR>ClubVAC: "Roads found. 
Drivers wanted."</FONT> </DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On 
  Behalf Of </B>L F<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:46 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Anson Clement; scirocco-l@scirocco.org; Euroroc 
  II<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 8v vs 16v eh! RE: 16v body kit 
  questions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I could only download the first 23 seconds of the 
  Cheesefrogg run, but it was quite obvious that the Viper was toying with the 
  ricer.&nbsp; After all, in 23 seconds the Viper could have run the quarter 
  mile.&nbsp; Twice.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tell me what happened after the 23 second 
  mark???</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=flaatr@yahoo.com href="mailto:flaatr@yahoo.com";>Euroroc II</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=anarchistbooty@hotmail.com 
    href="mailto:anarchistbooty@hotmail.com";>Anson Clement</A> ; <A 
    title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
    href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:29 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 8v vs 16v eh! RE: 16v body 
    kit questions</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>I'm not arguing 8V v. 16V I'm arguing stock v. modified... 
    Chesefrog or whoever that is did a great job running a viper but he didn't 
    exactly have stock civic. Based on this heavily modified civic it would not 
    be fair to say that 'civic's can keep up with vipers'... that's my 
    point.<BR><BR>-Raffi<BR><BR>At 09:24 PM 3/27/2003 +0000, Anson Clement 
    wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">If you read the ice race 
      results post it sounds like he's refering to an aba conversion. 
      <BR><BR>Anson<BR><BR>OH and why not? You guys do start OUT with 33 extra 
      HP after all??? <BR>Depends on how modded the 8v was...that we don't know. 
      I mean, depending on the mods, it *might* have been only making similar HP 
      numbers to a stock 16v. <BR>-- <BR>Eric <BR>Northglenn, CO <BR>79 VW Iltis 
      <BR>81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern) 
      <BR>81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (Waiting for BAE Turbo Install) <BR>83 
      Scirocco Wolfsburg <BR>91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical 
      rebuild in progress) <BR>--- Euroroc II wrote: <BR>&gt;Modified 8V vs. 
      stock 16V.... <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;Don't get so excited, this is not a fair 
      comparison. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;-RGK- <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;At 
      11:40 AM 3/27/2003 -0600, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote: <BR>&gt;&gt;what's 
      this..? <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;an 8v blew the doors off a 16v? Oh.. Oh.. 
      Oh... <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;(Looking at larry)... Sixteen Valves AH! 
      <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;-Damn we need to arrange a track day at cincy, 
      any news on that?- <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;ATS - Patrick Bureau - 
      txrocco@sbcglobal.net <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; 
      <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt;-----Original Message----- <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt;From: 
      scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt;[<A 
      href="mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org"; 
      eudora="autourl">mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org</A>]On Behalf Of 
      Jason Adams <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt;BTW a modded 8v blew the 
      <BR>&gt;&gt;=&gt;doors off my stock 16v last weekend... need more torque! 
      <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; 
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