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I see water wetter at my local Autozone consistantly. It shouldn't be too hard to find. The back of the container tells you what to put in your radiator to give you the most benifit. It's not that cheap though, I think I was it for around $8.00 for a quart can. I could be off though and I'm sure it would be cheaper online where you could buy a case of it or something.
Dan
 Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com> wrote:just did some research, check this out:http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htmturns out the heat capacity of water goes WAY down when adding 50/50 glycol, basically we need to run the minimum percentage of glycol as possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit scaling/corrosion in the aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps lubricate the water pump seal. after reading that page, im droping the mix to about 20%, and will throw some water wetter in there shortly....now to find some water wetter...Al ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Cotner To: Allyn Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:54 PMSubject: Re: interesting coolant stuff

I had almost this exact same thing happen to me, I haven't tried thinning out the mix yet though- 
Rob 
 Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com> wrote: ok, so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, and decided to do some flush
action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze in there this
time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% antifreeze mix. now
check this out:
temps prior:
water - centered over led, max of 3/4 when fan turns on.
oil - normally 90-100 when moving, peaking at 110 during extended idle in
traffic, but will settle back to 100 if a/c is turned on low (due to
radiator fan running in slow).
temps after:
water - towards upper part of led.
oil - minimum 100 when moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty fast,
stays at 110 even with a/c on low.

i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as water, but is it THAT much
worse?
also, could it be that all is good, but the antifreeze is raising the
boiling point, so where the system was incapable of going much ove! r 100c
before, now it can more easily?

all other parts of cooling system are still working perfect, fan operates on
its own. nothing was done to tstat, etc.

whatcha think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute minimum i
should run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is supposed to
provide? (as far as lubrication, etc).
Al


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<P>I see water wetter at my local Autozone consistantly. It shouldn't be too hard to find. The back of the container tells you what to put in your radiator to give you the most benifit. It's not that cheap though, I think I was it for around $8.00 for a quart can. I could be off though and I'm sure it would be cheaper online where you could buy a case of it or something.
<P>Dan
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Allyn &lt;amalventano@sc.rr.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>just did some research, check this out:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm";>http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>turns out the heat capacity of water goes WAY down when adding 50/50 glycol, basically we need to run the minimum percentage of glycol as possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit scaling/corrosion in the aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps lubricate the water pump seal. after reading that page, im droping the mix to about 20%, and will throw some water wetter in there shortly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>...now to find some water wetter...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Al</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com"; title=robw_z@yahoo.com>Robbie Cotner</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com"; title=amalventano@sc.rr.com>Allyn</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"; title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:54 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: interesting coolant stuff</DIV>
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<P>I had almost this exact same thing happen to me, I haven't tried thinning out the mix yet though- 
<P>Rob 
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Allyn &lt;<A href="mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>amalventano@sc.rr.com</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">ok, so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, and decided to do some flush<BR>action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze in there this<BR>time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% antifreeze mix. now<BR>check this out:<BR>temps prior:<BR>water - centered over led, max of 3/4 when fan turns on.<BR>oil - normally 90-100 when moving, peaking at 110 during extended idle in<BR>traffic, but will settle back to 100 if a/c is turned on low (due to<BR>radiator fan running in slow).<BR>temps after:<BR>water - towards upper part of led.<BR>oil - minimum 100 when moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty fast,<BR>stays at 110 even with a/c on low.<BR><BR>i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as water, but is it THAT much<BR>worse?<BR>also, could it be that all is good, but the antifreeze is raising the<BR>boiling point, so where the system was incapable of going much ove! r 100c<BR>before, now it can more easily?<BR><BR>all other parts of cooling system are still working perfect, fan operates on<BR>its own. nothing was done to tstat, etc.<BR><BR>whatcha think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute minimum i<BR>should run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is supposed to<BR>provide? (as far as lubrication, etc).<BR>Al<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE>
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