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Any advantage or disadvantage to the new 'pink' coolant?  Or is that
just an environmentally friendlier formulation"
Rick K.
 
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From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Allyn
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:11 PM
To: Robbie Cotner
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff
 
just did some research, check this out:
http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm
turns out the heat capacity of water goes WAY down when adding 50/50
glycol, basically we need to run the minimum percentage of glycol as
possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit scaling/corrosion in the
aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps lubricate the water pump
seal. after reading that page, im droping the mix to about 20%, and will
throw some water wetter in there shortly.
...now to find some water wetter...
Al
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robbie Cotner <mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com>  
To: Allyn <mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com>  
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff
 
I had almost this exact same thing happen to me, I haven't tried
thinning out the mix yet though- 
Rob 
 Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com> wrote: 
ok, so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, and decided to do some flush
action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze in there this
time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% antifreeze mix.
now
check this out:
temps prior:
water - centered over led, max of 3/4 when fan turns on.
oil - normally 90-100 when moving, peaking at 110 during extended idle
in
traffic, but will settle back to 100 if a/c is turned on low (due to
radiator fan running in slow).
temps after:
water - towards upper part of led.
oil - minimum 100 when moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty fast,
stays at 110 even with a/c on low.

i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as water, but is it THAT much
worse?
also, could it be that all is good, but the antifreeze is raising the
boiling point, so where the system was incapable of going much ove! r
100c
before, now it can more easily?

all other parts of cooling system are still working perfect, fan
operates on
its own. nothing was done to tstat, etc.

whatcha think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute minimum i
should run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is supposed
to
provide? (as far as lubrication, etc).
Al


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any advantage or disadvantage to =
the new &#8216;pink&#8217;
coolant?<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Or is that just =
an environmentally
friendlier formulation&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rick =
K.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Allyn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 23, =
2003 10:11
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Robbie Cotner<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: interesting =
coolant
stuff</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>just did some research, =
check this
out:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href=3D"http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm";>http://www.redline=
oil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>turns out the heat capacity =
of water
goes WAY down when adding 50/50 glycol, basically we need to run the =
minimum
percentage of glycol as possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit
scaling/corrosion in the aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps
lubricate the water pump seal. after reading that page, im droping the =
mix to
about 20%, and will throw some water wetter in there =
shortly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>...now to find some water =
wetter...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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interesting coolant stuff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I had almost this exact same thing happen to =
me, I
haven't tried thinning out the mix yet though- =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Rob <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
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style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:
italic'>Allyn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>amalventano@sc.rr.com</a>&gt;</span=
></i></b>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>ok, so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, =
and decided
to do some flush<br>
action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze in there =
this<br>
time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% antifreeze mix. =
now<br>
check this out:<br>
temps prior:<br>
water - centered over led, max of 3/4 when fan turns on.<br>
oil - normally 90-100 when moving, peaking at 110 during extended idle =
in<br>
traffic, but will settle back to 100 if a/c is turned on low (due to<br>
radiator fan running in slow).<br>
temps after:<br>
water - towards upper part of led.<br>
oil - minimum 100 when moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty =
fast,<br>
stays at 110 even with a/c on low.<br>
<br>
i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as water, but is it THAT =
much<br>
worse?<br>
also, could it be that all is good, but the antifreeze is raising =
the<br>
boiling point, so where the system was incapable of going much ove! r =
100c<br>
before, now it can more easily?<br>
<br>
all other parts of cooling system are still working perfect, fan =
operates on<br>
its own. nothing was done to tstat, etc.<br>
<br>
whatcha think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute minimum =
i<br>
should run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is supposed =
to<br>
provide? (as far as lubrication, etc).<br>
Al<br>
<br>
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