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Are you planning on removing all the black undercoating crap too, Ron?
In regards to the sand-blasting, I read somewhere (and will definitely double-check) that exterior areas that will be seen should NOT be sandblasted. Something about marring the surface shape?? Can anyone corroborate that?
I was definitely planning on going the POR-15 route.
Was it Alan who said to get the paint on quickly? I assuming by "paint" hea meant the POR-15 top coat, correct?
Thx, JT
Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:I don't know about POR 15; never used it. But, in my typical cheapass way, I have found and
effective, off-the-shelf solution: Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer is absolutely the dogs bollocks
for sealing metal and preventing the spread of rust. I think it has fish oil or something (ever
see a rusty fish? Well there ya go).
I had bought a beater Rabbit for a girlfriend some decades ago, it had some surface and other
minor rust. I just wire brushed it off and put some RMP on it. On an exterior surface, that rust
didn't peek through for over two years, probably longer since I sorta dumped her and the car went
too, and I haven't seen hide nor hair of either one since (nor that $3000 she owes me...well,
that's another story).
I'm telling ya - when I get my MkI, out come the carpets and down goes RMP in any questionable
areas. Underneath too. Topcoat with other Rustoleum stuff iff'n you want.
My $0.02 says that common sense prevails...this is a cheap and very effective solution IMO.
HTH
Ron
--- "John C. Worden" wrote:
> I'll address this all at once:
> In regards to the first email, I'm not going to cover over what little rust
> there is. I am going to sandblast too and
> then am going to Por 15 everything that is out of sight. This is the best
> looking MkI I've seen around here for a
> long time and want to keep it looking that way(TX car supposedly).
> In regards to Alan's email, thanks, I will go with their topcoat.
> Julie, this "black beauty"; what is it exactly. I assuming it's not sand of
> course.
>
>
> John
>
> At 07:52 PM 3/22/03 +0000, Julie Macfarlane wrote:
>
> >Unbelievable. I've tried those scrubber wheels, wire wheels sand paper,
> >every thing.
> >Man that sandblaster does an INCREDIBLE job. Cuts the rust and paint in a
> >heart beat. Best $24.00 I've spent yet....
> >
> >Ummmm. What else can I do?
> >
> >
> >
> >Julie Macfarlane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Alan Stamper"
> >>
> >>And get the paint on there as soon as you can. I wouldn't even let it sit
> >>overnight.
> >>
> >>Alan
> >>
> >>From: "Julie Macfarlane"
> >>
> >>
> >> > A friend of mine told me that NO product stops rust. POR15 etc just delays
> >> > the creeping of rust. He suggests, either cut it ALL out or sandblasting
> >>the
> >> > metal to remove all the rust.
> >> > Sooo...
> >> > For me I got an inexpencive sandblast gun from Walmart and borrowed a
> >> > compressor. 100 lbs of Black beauty and I have a date in the drive way
> >> > today...
> >> > To seal the metal, he suggests a self etching primer, with a coat of paint
> >> > to cover.
> >> >
> >> > Julie Macfarlane
> >>
> >> >
> >> > >From: "John C. Worden"
> >> > >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >> > >Subject: Por-15 Question and couple of MkI Q's too.
> >> > >Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:18:58 -0500
> >> > >
> >> > >Here's a question for those of you experienced with Po-15. I'm getting
> >> > >started
> >> > >with work on the '78 and want to use Por-15 on the insides of the outer
> >> > >fenders,
> >> > >and the very front of the inner fenders(well at least these areas, maybe
> >> > >more).
> >> > >Apparently the top coat is optional, what did you use, and do recommend
> >>the
> >> > >topcoat? I want to do this right, but also don't want to bother with
> >> > >needless
> >> > >steps.
> >> > >Also anybody know offhand if the body stickers(doorjamb and under hood
> >> > >ones)
> >> > >are still available or if someone makes repros?
> >> > >Could also use a pair of saddle brown inside door handle trim pieces- the
> >> > >piece
> >> > >that goes around the handle. Want a pair in VERY nice shape.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > >John C. Worden
>
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<P>Are you planning on removing all the black undercoating crap too, Ron?
<P>In regards to the sand-blasting, I read somewhere (and will definitely double-check) that exterior areas that will be seen should NOT be sandblasted. Something about marring the surface shape?? Can anyone corroborate that?
<P>I was definitely planning on going the POR-15 route.
<P>Was it Alan who said to get the paint on quickly? I assuming by "paint" hea meant the POR-15 top coat, correct?
<P>Thx, JT
<P> <B><I>Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I don't know about POR 15; never used it. But, in my typical cheapass way, I have found and<BR>effective, off-the-shelf solution: Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer is absolutely the dogs bollocks<BR>for sealing metal and preventing the spread of rust. I think it has fish oil or something (ever<BR>see a rusty fish? Well there ya go).<BR><BR>I had bought a beater Rabbit for a girlfriend some decades ago, it had some surface and other<BR>minor rust. I just wire brushed it off and put some RMP on it. On an exterior surface, that rust<BR>didn't peek through for over two years, probably longer since I sorta dumped her and the car went<BR>too, and I haven't seen hide nor hair of either one since (nor that $3000 she owes me...well,<BR>that's another story).<BR><BR>I'm telling ya - when I get my MkI, out come the carpets and down goes RMP in any questionable<BR>areas. Underneath too. Topcoat with other Rustoleum stuff iff'n you want. <BR><BR>My $0.02 says that common sense prevails...this is a cheap and very effective solution IMO.<BR><BR>HTH<BR><BR>Ron<BR><BR><BR><BR>--- "John C. Worden" <SCIROCCO@POWERLINK.NET>wrote:<BR>> I'll address this all at once:<BR>> In regards to the first email, I'm not going to cover over what little rust <BR>> there is. I am going to sandblast too and<BR>> then am going to Por 15 everything that is out of sight. This is the best <BR>> looking MkI I've seen around here for a<BR>> long time and want to keep it looking that way(TX car supposedly).<BR>> In regards to Alan's email, thanks, I will go with their topcoat.<BR>> Julie, this "black beauty"; what is it exactly. I assuming it's not sand of <BR>> course.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John<BR>> <BR>> At 07:52 PM 3/22/03 +0000, Julie Macfarlane wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >Unbelievable. I've tried those scrubber wheels, wire wheels sand paper, <BR>> >every thing.<BR>> >Man that sandblaster does an INCREDIBLE job. Cuts the rust and paint in a <BR>> >heart beat. Best $24.00 I've spent yet....<BR>> ><BR>> >Ummmm. What else can I do?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Julie Macfarlane<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >>From: "Alan Stamper" <SCIROCCO-AL@INSIGHT.RR.COM><BR>> >><BR>> >>And get the paint on there as soon as you can. I wouldn't even let it sit<BR>> >>overnight.<BR>> >><BR>> >>Alan<BR>> >><BR>> >>From: "Julie Macfarlane" <JULIEMAC57@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> > A friend of mine told me that NO product stops rust. POR15 etc just delays<BR>> >> > the creeping of rust. He suggests, either cut it ALL out or sandblasting<BR>> >>the<BR>> >> > metal to remove all the rust.<BR>> >> > Sooo...<BR>> >> > For me I got an inexpencive sandblast gun from Walmart and borrowed a<BR>> >> > compressor. 100 lbs of Black beauty and I have a date in the drive way<BR>> >> > today...<BR>> >> > To seal the metal, he suggests a self etching primer, with a coat of paint<BR>> >> > to cover.<BR>> >> ><BR>> >> > Julie Macfarlane<BR>> >><BR>> >> ><BR>> >> > >From: "John C. Worden" <SCIROCCO@POWERLINK.NET><BR>> >> > >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>> >> > >Subject: Por-15 Question and couple of MkI Q's too.<BR>> >> > >Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:18:58 -0500<BR>> >> > ><BR>> >> > >Here's a question for those of you experienced with Po-15. I'm getting<BR>> >> > >started<BR>> >> > >with work on the '78 and want to use Por-15 on the insides of the outer<BR>> >> > >fenders,<BR>> >> > >and the very front of the inner fenders(well at least these areas, maybe<BR>> >> > >more).<BR>> >> > >Apparently the top coat is optional, what did you use, and do recommend<BR>> >>the<BR>> >> > >topcoat? I want to do this right, but also don't want to bother with<BR>> >> > >needless<BR>> >> > >steps.<BR>> >> > >Also anybody know offhand if the body stickers(doorjamb and under hood<BR>> >> > >ones)<BR>> >> > >are still available or if someone makes repros?<BR>> >> > >Could also use a pair of saddle brown inside door handle trim pieces- the<BR>> >> > >piece<BR>> >> > >that goes around the handle. Want a pair in VERY nice shape.<BR>> >> > ><BR>> >> > >Thanks<BR>> >> > ><BR>> >> > >John C. Worden<BR>> <BR><BR><BR>__________________________________________________<BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!<BR>http://platinum.yahoo.com<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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