Whoops, that was supposed to be "non-driving idiots". ahem... :^) http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108505 -- Scott F. Williams NJ Scirocco nut '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle Golf GTI 16v "rollycar" ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."