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Better than welding, how? If the horizontal member is hollow then =
welding will be stronger. If it is solid (read heavy) then bolting might =
be better. Proper weld penetration could be stronger dependant upon the =
application.
Not that the government knows anything but answer me this. Why is it =
that in Connecticut if you try to register a home built trailer they =
will not allow any frame members to be bolted together. They all must be =
welded.
I also beg to differ with you on your contention that it is simpler. One =
piece welded vs. ten pieces bolted (counting washers).
Rick Alexander
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brian Wagner=20
To: Rick Alexander ; The list=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: crossmember update (more pics..)
But isn't bolting better than welding?=20
I like the simplicity of the bolt together.=20
Brian=20
Rick Alexander <ralexander03@snet.net> wrote:=20
Toby,
Thanks for the links. Now I know what all that discussion was about. =
Having
entered this thread late I might ask some questions that you thought =
were
put to bed already. Bear with me, I need to know.
In picture "xmember3" are these to be inside of the horizontal =
member which
is hollow?
Are the horizontal and vertical members at the center bolted for =
ease of
development? Will this be welded in the production model?
In picture "xmember6" it appears that the vertical member under the =
mount is
not as wide as the mount. Should it be as wide or wider?
In picture "xmember1" the inside angle is a sharp 90 deg. Should =
this be a
radius to help it to not tear in that area?
What is the gauge of the vertical side members?
Thanks, enquiring minds and all...
Rick Alexander
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Reed"=20
To: "Rick Alexander"=20
Cc: "The list"=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: crossmember update (more pics..)
> > Toby,
> >
> > Please send the links to your pictures for those of us who have =
lost
them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick Alexander
>
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember1.jpg
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember2.jpg
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember3.jpg
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember4.jpg
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember5.jpg
> http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember6.jpg
>
> -Toby
>
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<DIV><STRONG>Better than welding, how? If the horizontal member is =
hollow then=20
welding will be stronger. If it is solid (read heavy) then bolting might =
be=20
better. Proper weld penetration could be stronger =
dependant upon=20
the application.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Not that the government knows anything but answer me this. =
Why is=20
it that in Connecticut if you try to register a home built trailer they =
will not=20
allow any frame members to be bolted together. They all must be=20
welded.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>I also beg to differ with you on your contention that it is =
simpler. One piece welded vs. ten pieces bolted (counting=20
washers).</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Rick Alexander</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbrian_wagner@sbcglobal.net=20
href=3D"mailto:brian_wagner@sbcglobal.net";>Brian Wagner</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dralexander03@snet.net=20
href=3D"mailto:ralexander03@snet.net";>Rick Alexander</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org =
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list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 04, 2003 =
2:17=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: crossmember update =
(more=20
pics..)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P>But isn't bolting better than welding?=20
<P>I like the simplicity of the bolt together.=20
<P>Brian=20
<P> <B><I>Rick Alexander <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ralexander03@snet.net";>ralexander03@snet.net</A>></I></=
B>=20
wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">Toby,<BR><BR>Thanks=20
for the links. Now I know what all that discussion was about.=20
Having<BR>entered this thread late I might ask some questions that =
you=20
thought were<BR>put to bed already. Bear with me, I need to =
know.<BR><BR>In=20
picture "xmember3" are these to be inside of the horizontal member=20
which<BR>is hollow?<BR><BR>Are the horizontal and vertical members =
at the=20
center bolted for ease of<BR>development? Will this be welded in the =
production model?<BR><BR>In picture "xmember6" it appears that the =
vertical=20
member under the mount is<BR>not as wide as the mount. Should it be =
as wide=20
or wider?<BR><BR>In picture "xmember1" the inside angle is a sharp =
90 deg.=20
Should this be a<BR>radius to help it to not tear in that =
area?<BR><BR>What=20
is the gauge of the vertical side members?<BR><BR>Thanks, enquiring =
minds=20
and all...<BR><BR>Rick Alexander<BR><BR>----- Original Message=20
-----<BR>From: "T. Reed" <TREED2@U.WASHINGTON.EDU><BR>To: "Rick =
Alexander"=20
<RALEXANDER03@SNET.NET><BR>Cc: "The list" =
<SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG><BR>Sent:=20
Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:16 PM<BR>Subject: Re: crossmember update =
(more=20
pics..)<BR><BR><BR>> > Toby,<BR>> ><BR>> > Please =
send the=20
links to your pictures for those of us who have =
lost<BR>them.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > Thanks,<BR>> ><BR>> > Rick=20
Alexander<BR>><BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember1.jpg<BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember2.jpg<BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember3.jpg<BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember4.jpg<BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember5.jpg<BR>>=20
http://students.washington.edu/~treed2/xmember6.jpg<BR>><BR>>=20
=
-Toby<BR>><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<=
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