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So tell us Larry, exactly why do companies like Moroso, Meizere and
Weiand (sp) waste the time and $$ to produce electric water pumps, and
then go to the trouble of dyno testing cars both with and without those
pumps, in order to advertise that 10+hp is freed up on an chevy motor
due to the reduced drag on the pulley system?
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of L F
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:06 PM
To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; _Scirocco Mailing List
Subject: Re: Water pump....questions



You will not gain hp.  It still takes x amount of hp to drive a pump,
whether it comes from the engine directly (via a belt) or indirectly via
the alternator. An electric pump will just take more hp to drive the
alternator. 
No such thing as free lunch.
Larry

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From: ATS -  <mailto:txrocco@sbcglobal.net> Patrick Bureau 
To: _Scirocco Mailing List <mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org>  
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:39 AM
Subject: Water pump....questions

Working on my 2L project and thinking...could it be possible to not
install
the pulley driven Water pump and install a type of electrical water pump
instead and gain some HP?
I have been obviously reading too many racing catalogues, I am getting
ideas, but no real clue what type would electrical driven (yeah I can
hear
the gremlins already getting ready to attack this thing) water pump ?

any one have any ideas on this?

ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net


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