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Am I in the wrong? (long)



You are not wrong.

maybe start an email petition directed right to Jamie on the vortex about
this. To many of the mods get a wild hair in their ass about anything
slightly off from a direct conversation about the specific cars forum, and
it ruins any thought of it being a community.

The Scirocco forum is lucky with our mod, but other forums are plainly
idiotic in their controls.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Calimus" <calimus@techography.net>
To: "Scirocco ML" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: OT: Am I in the wrong? (long)


> Basicly I just want a general opinion since I hate getting into things
> like this.
>
> Recently my wife and I got ripped on e-bay.  It's been almost 2 months
> since payment was made and the first month the seller gave a few excuses
> for not shipping which we took with a grain of salt be still kept good
> faith.  This second month the seller won't return any e-mail.  Weel, due
> to the ammount of the time Pay-pal can't/won't do anything so my wifedid
> what she knows best which is skip-tracing.
>
> She found the sellers car had been entered at the ND show, got some info
> and pic of his car.  Using the info she got, she was able to track him
> to VWVortex and more directly to the Golf/Jetta IV forum.  So she posted
> a thread giving a small summery of the dealings and asking if anyone
> knew him and how he might be contacted.
>
> Many of the Texers were sympathetic and some even IM'd her with good
> info.  Her main reason for this was hopefully to get the seller to
> actually respond so the matter could be cleared up.  However, the forum
> moderator locked the thread before it was even 24 hours old.  Giving the
> statement that is didn't belong on the forum since it had nothing to do
> with the tex.  That kinda irked me so I started an IM session with the
> moderator and here is the result of that.  Mind you I stayed 3rd party
> and didn't say anything about being married to the the person that
> started the thread.  I've also changed the moderators handle just out of
> courtesy.
>
> Calimus (4:20 PM 6-19-2003): You locked the following topic
> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=899205
> And I would like to know wh?. The reason that it doesn't have anything
> to do with vortex is not very valid. Vortex is a community where the
> users talk about many topics not related to vortex. The person tracked
> the seller to the show at ND and to vortex. So they asked if anyone knew
> the seller, what good is a community if you can't tap it as a resource
> to help others not get taken by someone that is a member of the same
> community?
>
>  Calimus (4:22 PM 6-19-2003): it may very well be a bit trivial,
> but as a member of this community I think thread locking is something
> that should be used when something unsavory is being planned or talked
> about. Not when someone is trying to warn others not to purchas things
> from a fellow texer.
>
>  monderator_person (4:37 PM 6-19-2003): We only saw one side of the
> story - we don't know what happened. It is never good to have these
> types of posts, and that is speaking from almost 4 years experience
> dealing with this website.
>
>  Calimus (4:56 PM 6-19-2003): we given the fact that you locked the
> thread, the other party doesn't get a chance to respond do they? Nothing
> was said that gave any indication to violence or slander. They were
> simply trying to track the person down. As for the 4 years, I'm really
> happy you've been here that long, but if anything 4 years should have
> taught you that humans are anything but predictable and that there is no
> general rule to them.
>
>  moderator_person (5:03 PM 6-19-2003): The fact of the matter is that
> forum is for discussing the G/J IV, not what some user did on e-bay. The
> topic does not need to be on our website. E-bay can handle that since
> the transaction was done on that website.
>
>
> Personally I felt that I got brushed off, but thats ok.  I just want to
> make sure I wasn't really in the wrong by pressing the issue just a
> tad.  I think I did well in not attacking anyone or coming acrossed
> nasty.  I'm just really glad that the rocco forum admins arn't like this
> or who knows how many ppl would be gettin ripped off by fellow texers.
>
> But, was I in the wrong?
>
> William
> --
> 88' Scirocco 16v (Crabby 16v)
> 89' Cabriolet 8v (pretty bunneh)
> 71' Karmann Ghia (air sucker)
>
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>
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