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Turning Rocc into an Azteca :o)
I think I dig this idea. Maybe not so much all the interior stuff, but it
would be nice to be able to fold down the rest like a tailgate. Then again,
I've always been impressed with how much crap I can stuff into a rocco. For
such a small car, the shape lends itself pretty well to cargo space.
I think if it were to be done, it would have to be top notch. No screwin
around with hokey stuff. I would have some hinges fabricated on the inside
somehow, so that you clamp it shut from the inside. And I would somehow
make it so that you can't tell at all.
Defenately a very cool idea. Here's my idea: Rocco meets 914. Removable
hardtop, mid mounted VR6. mmmm, perfect.
Vince
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Lyman M. Terni
> Sent: January 7, 2003 6:20 PM
> To: Tyler P.
> Cc: List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Turning Rocc into an Azteca :o)
>
>
> ahhhhh... I missed that...I don't know about rigidity, but that idea
> sounds cooler than what I had in my mind :)
>
> LT
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:26 PM, Tyler P. wrote:
>
> > Thats right Drew, It would look stock unless you were looking at it
> > closely
> > seeing as It would need at least two latches on the outside. As for
> > structural stuff, I'm still trying to figure this out. The whole
> > comparison
> > with the convertable mods doesn't work for me because there you
> > completely
> > remove part of the car, here the "tailgate" could be dropped down but
> > everything would still be there and just be clamped into place. I'm
> > just
> > trying to get opinions on wether or not this area really contributes
> > to the
> > structure seeing as in a truck situation this doesn't make it so the
> > truck
> > bed twists. Of course a truck bed isn't exactly part of the body, it
> > more
> > just sits on the truck (though I don't know if rabbit pickups are like
> > this?).
> >
> > Oh, by the way, I am not joking but not completly serious. This is
> > something I would like to pursue but may do so with my rabbit, but
> > overall
> > it was a "hey lets gut this but at the same time a tailgate would be
> > cool
> > for easy loading of bikes!" kind of thing. (and no dave, Im not
> > buying a
> > rabbit pickup, they are ugly) Frankly, I feel the complete rear of the
> > scirocco is terribly designed and useless. At the very least I feel
> > like
> > gutting the back because the speaker mount area makes the trunk too
> > narrow
> > for anything and the rear seats don't fold all the way down, also
> > seeing as
> > they practically touch the front seats they aren't useful for
> > passengers.
> >
> > I'll make a sketch to show you what I'm envisioning, if such
> > brilliance can
> > be captured on paper :oP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drew Teague [mailto:roccnroll@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:31 PM
> > To: ternil@union.edu; ty@festf.org
> > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: Turning Rocc into an Azteca :o)
> >
> >
> > If I understand Tyler correctly, then I think you have his idea wrong.
> > I
> > think what he's doing will look like a stock rocco body-wise, but with
> > the
> > hatch open, the panel with the lights/license plate would fold down.
> > Is
> > this the right idea?
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > **Drew Teague**
> > Harrisburg, PA
> >
> > `84 8v Rocco -- "Bruise"
> > `85 BMW 318
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Lyman M. Terni" <ternil@union.edu>
> >> To: "Tyler P." <ty@festf.org>
> >> CC: "List (E-mail)" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Turning Rocc into an Azteca :o)
> >> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:17:45 -0500
> >>
> >> this is one of those times when you kind of lose a person's
> >> intentions in
> >> email. Are you joking or actually serious?
> >>
> >> If joking: hahaha
> >> if serious: So, basically, what you are saying you want is a European
> >> El
> >> Camino with a changing option. yikes. Buy one of them Subaru Bajas or
> >> whatever they are called, save a rocc. I'm taking a wild guess here,
> >> but
> >> that would probably do really bad things to your structural
> >> integrity. I
> >> mean, if a convertible has less structural rigidity than a hard top,
> >> imagine what doing this to half your car yourself would do to it. And
> >> maybe I'm paranoid, but what if it rolled?
> >>
> >> LT
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:15 PM, Tyler P. wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm thinking about doing a pretty crazy mod. I want to completely
> >>> gut the
> >>> back of my rocc, including the rear seats so that the entire back is
> >>> the
> >>> width of the car and is all flat so I would lay down custom bed
> >>> liner to
> >>> make it look stock instead of gutted. Then I want to convert the
> >>> back and
> >>> make a tail gate so I would lift the hatch then lower the tailgate to
> >>> easily
> >>> roll in mountain bikes. :o) (hence, it would be like an azteca but
> >>> nice
> >>> looking)
> >>>
> >>> I just went out and looked at my car for a while and think it could
> >>> be
> >>> done.
> >>> Basically I would cut by following the lines that go around the rear
> >>> lights
> >>> and go down to the bumper, install hinges and some sort of rubber
> >>> seal.
> >>> Then I would have a metal backing put over the inside of the
> >>> tailgate so
> >>> it
> >>> covers and protects the lights. Anyway, I think I could do this but
> >>> here
> >>> is
> >>> a question.
> >>>
> >>> What would this do to my structural integrity? When the hatch was
> >>> closed
> >>> I
> >>> would think it would be ok because everything would be clamped into
> >>> place
> >>> but who knows. Also, will there be any structural problems from
> >>> gutting
> >>> the
> >>> back and taking out the sides where the rear speakers and trunk
> >>> board sit?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Also, do you think this sounds as cool as I do? I may try it on my
> >>> Rabbit
> >>> first.
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