Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?

[rhock99@epix.net (Ryan H)]

Brian, i tested the DPR (to adjust the fuel mixture), and the readings bounced around within +-2 mA.  From what I've heard, if the reading sticks at 20mA, then the O2 sensor is dead, so I'm going to assume mine works.

> 
> From: Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org>
> Date: 2003/02/09 Sun PM 10:50:58 EST
> To: Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net>
> CC: Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>,  "" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Subject: Re: Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?
> 
> You might have gotten extremely unlucky and got a broken o2 sensor. 
> Brian
> 
> 
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Ryan H wrote:
> 
> > Oops, knew I forgot to mention something.
> > I replaced the O2 sensor also.  And the strange thing is, with it plugged in or not, the car runs the same. 
> > I also replaced the KE-Jetronic box just in case.
> > 
> > > o2 sensor can put the car into limp home mode... also, it would do it until
> > > 'a few minutes' after cycling the ignition (warm up mode).
> > > Al
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> > > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:10 PM
> > > Subject: Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > OK, I'm out of ideas.  Car runs in limp mode 90% of the time
> > > (progressively got worse).  If I turn it off then on, or nearly stall the
> > > engine, it goes normal for a few minutes.  I've replaced (or swapped) nearly
> > > everything I can think of (list below) that would be related.  Still
> > > nothing.  Anyone near Scranton PA that would be willing to help me with the
> > > car?  Like take it off my hands and try to fix it for however long it takes.
> > > I'd pay $200 + whatever parts need to be replaced to anyone who could figure
> > > it out... really.
> > > >
> > > > OK, here's the list of things done:
> > > > New fuel filter (cheap one, though, but still...)
> > > > New knock sensor
> > > > Swapped knock boxes & ICM (tried 2 different ones)
> > > > Swapped distrib/hall sender
> > > > Swapped coil (part store only had 8V coil, but it still did the same
> > > thing... can't find a 16V coil to test with)
> > > > Timed motor many times
> > > > New rotor/cap
> > > > New plugs/wires
> > > > Swapped coolant sensor
> > > > New main pump
> > > > New transfer pump
> > > > Hardwired FP relay
> > > > Checked & cleaned as many connections as I could
> > > >
> > > > This problem bothers me even more because the car runs sooo strong when
> > > it's normal.  When it's not, I can't even get to 4000+ rpm.  Geo Metros pass
> > > me like I'm stopped. :o
> > > >
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