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Block interchangability
The Saab turbo is a T3 right?
The turbo we just installed on my nephew's JH is a T3, 50 trim compressor,
.63 AR on the turbine housing. It'll make boost at 2500 in 5th where
everything is happening really slow, but the turbo response is generally
slow. I would say not a good auto-x car. Maybe a .48 turbine housing would
pick the response up enough. Don't know.
As far as hooking up two turbos to run sequentially, I don't have a clue,
although my initial thoughts are that it won't be easy cause you're not only
turning on/off the flow of exhaust to the second turbo, but you also have to
turn on/off the flow of inlet air so it doesn't back flow through the second
turbo under low speed conditions. And that means you need to know when the
second turbo's output has reached the pressure in the manifold before you
let it actually flow air. And you need to get flowing air when it comes up
to pressue so it doesn't surge and take out the compressor. Sounds like a
PITA control system to me ;^)
So, when's the BBQ?
Dan
BTW, you do know that I'm incapable of doing things on the cheap, so you're
really going to have to keep a eye on me!
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org>
To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: GRM Skateboard Racing -- Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>; Brian Haygood
<haygood@myway.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; Ron Pieper
<rapieper@yahoo.com>; Brett Van Sprewenburg <brett@netacc.net>; Scott F.
Williams <sfwilliams@comcast.net>; Rick Alexander <ralexander03@snet.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Block interchangability
>
> Actually Dan there is room for two. If you can figure out how to hook them
> up. Getting a Saab turbo + a K26 would be the hot ticket :-) remember that
> firewalls, and fenders are optional in this car.
> brian
>
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Dan Bubb wrote:
>
> > The squirters are just there, squirting at the bottom of the piston. As
long
> > as they clear everything (and no reason they shouldn't) all is good.
> >
> > As far as the turbos; I don't know anything about the KKK turbos. All
you
> > can do is look at the characteristics on the existing engine and try to
> > extrapolate to the different engine size. I would think either of the
KKK's
> > on a 1.8 L engine would be peaky and laggy. Not the ticket for an auto-x
> > car, but good for the drag race provided you have enough traction. OTOH,
if
> > they're sized to give really good low end response on the original
engine,
> > like the K03 on the A4, then maybe they would be a good choice.
> > At least with the T3/T4 we can get compressor maps, but we still don't
know
> > about response.
> > A K03 would give really good low end response on the 1.8L 8V, but top
end
> > would suck. To bad there isn't room for two of them with the second one
> > coming online at high CFM since they are cheap as rags!
> > OK! Forget I said that.
> > Later
> > Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org>
> > To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > Cc: GRM Skateboard Racing -- Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>; Brian
Haygood
> > <haygood@myway.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; Rick Alexander
> > <ralexander03@snet.net>; Brett Van Sprewenburg <brett@netacc.net>; Scott
F.
> > Williams <sfwilliams@comcast.net>; Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: Block interchangability
> >
> >
> > > THose are the kind of things that we can do.
> > >
> > > Ooooh BTW I need a little advice...
> > >
> > > Turbo choice
> > > T3/T4 hybrid $300-500 various trims
> > > K24 $100 (stock UrQ turbo)
> > > K26 $100 (audi 10vT)
> > >
> > > any suggestions.
> > >
> > > and regarding the squirters etc. is there anything fancy that we have
to
> > > do?
> > > brian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Dan Bubb wrote:
> > >
> > > > >From the table Allyn listed it looks like all will work.
> > > > But, doesn't the G60 have oil squirters for the pistons? And if
you're
> > > > aiming for big power that means lots of boost, so you really want
the
> > > > squirters. Means you'd need to put all the goodies into a 16V block.
> > > > Dan
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brian McGarvey" <brianm@earendel.org>
> > > > To: "GRM Skateboard Racing -- Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>;
"bigmac"
> > > > <brianm@earendel.org>; "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>;
> > "Brian
> > > > Haygood" <haygood@myway.com>; "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>;
"Rick
> > > > Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net>; "Ron Pieper"
<rapieper@yahoo.com>;
> > > > "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
> > > > Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Block interchangability
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey ya'll
> > > > > This is a GRM cheapass question..
> > > > > the G60 block i got is prolly crap, but the pistons, rods, and
crank
> > are
> > > > > prolly salvagable. So my question is
> > > > >
> > > > > if i get one of the readily available, 1.8L 16v or 8v blocks that
are
> > > > > often available free or very cheap, can I swap the crank, rods,
and
> > > > > pistons into the block? Cheapass Racing wants to know...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Brian
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> > > > > 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> > > > > 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
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> > > 84 0v Next years car got parts?
> > > 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> > > 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
> > > 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
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> Brian
> 88 16v $2003 GRM challenge car http://www.grmotorsports.com
> 84 0v Next years car got parts?
> 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
> 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
>
> Contact method. Email me for AIM, ICQ, YahooIM, IRC, etc.
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