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Larry,
    i cant wait till vw pulls some crap like that. several mailing lists =
worth of prople and a good portion of vwvortex could make so much =
negative publicity for them so quickly, it would be quite funny... If vw =
doesnt give a shit about supporting its older cars by sponsoring events =
and such, thats fine. i can live with that. the second they try to mess =
with our *free* efforts to have enthusiasm about our vws, thats when i =
go into instant revolt mode. chris wont be making any sort of profit, =
and is only paying for materials basically. vw would only have any sort =
of leg to stand on when profits are being made. as of right now there =
are vw/etka cds for sale on ebay (pirated copies even), and the vw logo =
is in those auctions, and vw has yet to go after them... i believe our =
little sticker operation will be safe :).
    as a side note, chris could ask vw for permission to use the logo, =
but i think they would have a hard time grasping the idea that its use =
would be for a very small mailing list of scirocco owners.
Al

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: L F=20
  To: Chris D. Edwards ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Vinyl sticker ideas; was - Re: Calling out to our =
graphics vduber


  Chris-
    Be careful using the VW logo.
  Seems like I remember some legal hassles from VW about "unauthorized =
reproduction" of their logo in the past.

  Larry
  sandiego16v
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Chris D. Edwards=20
    To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:53 AM
    Subject: Vinyl sticker ideas; was - Re: Calling out to our graphics =
vduber


    Yes it is true in almost all versions of print and vinyl, that =
higher=20
    quantities makes for a lower per piece price.  Although keep in mind =
the=20
    larger the item, the more vinyl it takes so the cost of materials =
makes=20
    it so the price can only come down so far.  I would be happy to make =
the=20
    orginazation a screamin deal though.  I have the First generation =
decal=20
    and the second generation decal that says "SCIROCCO.ORG" ready to be =

    priced.  The only thing I need to do now is get or make a VW logo.  =
If=20
    anyone has an Illustrator, Freehand, Corel, or other vector version =
of=20
    the VW logo please email it to me.  Thanks guys, I think these will =
be=20
    good.  Once I know what they will cost us, then we can choose a =
price to=20
    sell them to new members, and what they will cost existing members.  =
We=20
    could even get a link on the website for ones to buy them even if =
they=20
    weren't a member.  Like I mentioned earlier I want to make decals =
people=20
    will use and buy.  So any good VW or SCIROCCO decals we could sell =
to=20
    raise money for events or whatever would be awesome.  I can also do=20
    T-shirts, just to let everyone know.

    Chris
    79 Scirocco 16V



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; i cant wait till vw =
pulls=20
some&nbsp;crap like that. several mailing lists worth of prople and a =
good=20
portion of vwvortex could make so much negative publicity for them so =
quickly,=20
it would be quite funny... If vw doesnt give a shit about supporting its =
older=20
cars by sponsoring events and such, thats fine. i can live with that. =
the second=20
they try to mess with our *free* efforts to have enthusiasm about =
our&nbsp;vws,=20
thats when i go into instant revolt mode. chris wont be making any sort =
of=20
profit, and is only paying for materials basically. vw would only have =
any sort=20
of leg to stand on when profits are being made. as of right now there =
are=20
vw/etka cds for sale on ebay (pirated copies even), and the vw logo is =
in those=20
auctions, and vw has yet to go after them... i believe our little =
sticker=20
operation will be safe :).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; as a side note, =
chris could ask=20
vw for permission to use the logo, but i think they would have a hard =
time=20
grasping the idea that its use would be for a very small mailing list of =

scirocco owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2003 =
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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Vinyl sticker =
ideas; was -=20
  Re: Calling out to our graphics vduber</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris-</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Be careful using the VW =
logo.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems like I remember some legal =
hassles from VW=20
  about "unauthorized reproduction" of their logo in the =
past.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sandiego16v</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dchris@westcoastpromos.com=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 26, =
2003 9:53=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Vinyl sticker ideas; =
was - Re:=20
    Calling out to our graphics vduber</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Yes it is true in almost all versions of print and =
vinyl,=20
    that higher <BR>quantities makes for a lower per piece price.&nbsp; =
Although=20
    keep in mind the <BR>larger the item, the more vinyl it takes so the =
cost of=20
    materials makes <BR>it so the price can only come down so far.&nbsp; =
I would=20
    be happy to make the <BR>orginazation a screamin deal though.&nbsp; =
I have=20
    the First generation decal <BR>and the second generation decal that =
says=20
    "SCIROCCO.ORG" ready to be <BR>priced.&nbsp; The only thing I need =
to do now=20
    is get or make a VW logo.&nbsp; If <BR>anyone has an Illustrator, =
Freehand,=20
    Corel, or other vector version of <BR>the VW logo please email it to =

    me.&nbsp; Thanks guys, I think these will be <BR>good.&nbsp; Once I =
know=20
    what they will cost us, then we can choose a price to <BR>sell them =
to new=20
    members, and what they will cost existing members.&nbsp; We =
<BR>could even=20
    get a link on the website for ones to buy them even if they =
<BR>weren't a=20
    member.&nbsp; Like I mentioned earlier I want to make decals people =
<BR>will=20
    use and buy.&nbsp; So any good VW or SCIROCCO decals we could sell =
to=20
    <BR>raise money for events or whatever would be awesome.&nbsp; I can =
also do=20
    <BR>T-shirts, just to let everyone know.<BR><BR>Chris<BR>79 Scirocco =

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