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Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. If she wants to be a vegetarian, let her be a damn vegetarian. Who cares what her reasons are? If it's because she likes the sound a cow makes and thinks pigs are cute, fine. I'm just as guilty as anyone about OT topics, but arguing over if Melissa has good or bad reasons for being a vegetarian? Come on now. Dan
L F <rocco16v@netzero.net> wrote:Julie's example indicates plants DO feel pain.   ..as if that makes any difference.Your qualification for edible organisms didn't mention "does not feel pain", only that they don't live, breathe, or ...um, have faces?You can exclude anything you want from your diet (I choose cauliflower, myself) but base it on taste, not which is the more 'noble' organism, 'cause you can't win that debate. Larry----- Original Message ----- From: melissa koshmieder To: juliemac57@hotmail.com Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PMSubject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal
yeah, but they dont have nerve endings, nor a central nervous system.  = no 
pain when "slaughtered".



-melissa-
Harrisburg, Pa
86 8v Scirocco ("new" body for my 87)
87 8v Scirocco (recently wrecked; guts soon to be donated to the 86)
87 Wolfsburg Jetta, 4dr





>From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
>To: onequikkitty@hotmail.com, sad_rocc@yahoo.com
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:11:51 +0000
>
>Melissa, did you know that plants are sentient?
>By attaching electrodes to a plant (EEG) a plant had leaves burned and torn 
>by one person. Another came in and helped the plant. Talking to it, 
>watering it and caring for it.
>
>When the abuser came back in the plant reacted violently on the 
>oscillograph. The plant calmed down once they left and the nice person came 
>in.
>
>Sorry  :)
>
>
>Julie Macfarlane
>Menlo Park Research & Development
>Internet Application Developer
>www.menloparkrandd.com
>www.montgomeryweb.org
>Amsterdam NY
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "melissa koshmieder" <onequikkitty@hotmail.com>
>>To: sad_rocc@yahoo.com
>>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal
>>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:57:56 +0000
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<DIV>Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. If she wants to be a vegetarian, let her be a damn vegetarian. Who cares what her reasons are? If it's because she likes the sound a cow makes and thinks pigs are cute, fine. I'm just as guilty as anyone about OT topics, but arguing over if Melissa has good or bad reasons for being a vegetarian? Come on now.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dan</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>L F &lt;rocco16v@netzero.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Julie's example indicates plants DO feel pain.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>..as if that makes any difference.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your qualification for edible organisms didn't mention "does not feel pain", only that they don't live, breathe, or ...um, have faces?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can exclude anything you want from your diet (I choose cauliflower, myself) but base it on taste, not which is the more 'noble' organism, 'cause you can't win that debate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:onequikkitty@hotmail.com"; title=onequikkitty@hotmail.com>melissa koshmieder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:juliemac57@hotmail.com"; title=juliemac57@hotmail.com>juliemac57@hotmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"; title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>yeah, but they dont have nerve endings, nor a central nervous system.&nbsp; = no <BR>pain when "slaughtered".<BR><BR><BR><BR>-melissa-<BR>Harrisburg, Pa<BR>86 8v Scirocco ("new" body for my 87)<BR>87 8v Scirocco (recently wrecked; guts soon to be donated to the 86)<BR>87 Wolfsburg Jetta, 4dr<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt;From: "Julie Macfarlane" &lt;<A href="mailto:juliemac57@hotmail.com";>juliemac57@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;To: <A href="mailto:onequikkitty@hotmail.com";>onequikkitty@hotmail.com</A>, <A href="mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com";>sad_rocc@yahoo.com</A><BR>&gt;CC: <A href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR>&gt;Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal<BR>&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:11:51 +0000<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Melissa, did you know that plants are sentient?<BR>&gt;By attaching electrodes to a plant (EEG) a plant had leaves burned and torn <BR>&gt;by one person. Another came in and helped the plant. Talking to it, <BR>&gt;watering it and caring for it.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;When the abuser came back in the plant reacted violently on the <BR>&gt;oscillograph. The plant calmed down once they left and the nice person came <BR>&gt;in.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Sorry&nbsp; :)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Julie Macfarlane<BR>&gt;Menlo Park Research &amp; Development<BR>&gt;Internet Application Developer<BR>&gt;<A href="http://www.menloparkrandd.com/";>www.menloparkrandd.com</A><BR>&gt;<A href="http://www.montgomeryweb.org/";>www.montgomeryweb.org</A><BR>&gt;Amsterdam NY<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;From: "melissa koshmieder" &lt;<A href="mailto:onequikkitty@hotmail.com";>onequikkitty@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;To: <A href="mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com";>sad_rocc@yahoo.com</A><BR>&gt;&gt;CC: <A href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR>&gt;&gt;Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal<BR>&gt;&gt;Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:57:56 +0000<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;&lt; message3.txt &gt;&gt;<BR><BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online&nbsp; <BR><A href="http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963";>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963</A><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR><A href="http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l";>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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